First-ever SGC 10 Wilt Chamberlain Rookie Graded

[Snowman]

I put the over under line at $1,250,000

I also think this one crosses to PSA 10. It is without question the nicest example in existence.

[Vintagedeputy]

Originally Posted by Snowman

I also think this one crosses to PSA 10.

No need to even try. That card is perfect in its current slab.

[JustinD]

I actually agree with Travis on this one. If this doesn’t break a million, I would be shocked. Not a one of the PSA 10s are this nice. It is perfect.

It also has a rough cut which I always prefer because it is the best indicator of no funny business.

[Tabe]

Originally Posted by Snowman

I put the over under line at $1,250,000

I also think this one crosses to PSA 10. It is without question the nicest example in existence.

Yeah, I'm right there with you. I think this lands in the $1.2m range.

[raulus]

Originally Posted by Snowman

I put the over under line at $1,250,000

I also think this one crosses to PSA 10. It is without question the nicest example in existence.

Question for our resident centering savant:

Does this one seem shifted just a hair to the right? One of your famous 51/49 centering jobs that you can spot from across the room?

And for that matter, to what extent do the rough edges on left and right help to obscure the centering?

[Snowman]

Originally Posted by raulus

Question for our resident centering savant:

Does this one seem shifted just a hair to the right? One of your famous 51/49 centering jobs that you can spot from across the room?

And for that matter, to what extent do the rough edges on left and right help to obscure the centering?

Yes, it's shifted right obviously. A bit more than 51/49 too. Probably about 47/53 maaaybe 48/52? Bit it's shifted. Still well within specs for a 10 though, and given how difficult this card is, I can't imagine a nicer copy exists overall. The registration of the red background is also really tough to find like this. Most have a noticeable shift downward.

[Peter_Spaeth]

The grade on this Gretzky is a crime against humanity, or at least against my friend who sold it to me.

[Snowman]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

The grade on this Gretzky is a crime against humanity, or at least against my friend who sold it to me.

Could be due to registration (look at the centering/placement of the colors in the Oilers logo, and the red bleeding into the border toward the top). But ya, looks fairly harsh overall.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Snowman

Could be due to registration (look at the centering/placement of the colors in the Oilers logo, and the red bleeding into the border toward the top). But ya, looks fairly harsh overall.

I think more likely some kid used to gradng Panini Prizms didn't know how to grade OPC hockey.

[Snowman]

Perhaps worth noting is that rough cuts, in general (at least the heavily frayed one's we're referring to above since most vintage cuts are technically "rough" somewhat), should only appear on the left and right edges. The only exception to this rule that I'm aware of are the OPC hockey cards where all 4 edges have rough cuts. I'm sure there are other sets I can't think of off the top of my head, but generally speaking, rough cut edges are only on the sides. The reason is because those were caused by the rotary sheets cutters that they ran the full sheets through. After they ran the sheets through those, they would end up with long strips which they would stack together and then used guillotine-style ream cutters to slice the stacks and create the top/bottom cuts. This is also why there is much more variation in card sizes from top to bottom than there is from left to right. Cards came short and tall with extraordinary variance from factory (upwards of 1/4" at the extremes), but they had very little variance from left to right (usually 1/64" or less for Topps). The majority of trimmed cards are trimmed top to bottom for this reason. Although there is certainly no shortage of trimmed left/right cards in slabs.