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Old 08-02-2024, 02:55 AM
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Here a few of my most recent pick ups. I'm just getting into boxing cards. Really love the look of the the N174's

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Old 08-02-2024, 09:07 PM
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Wish I had another N174 pickup to continue the OJ streak. Had Billy Allen in my set already, but it was $12.88 and I was interested in the "3". In hand, it clearly is a print defect and not later damage. It's difficult to add interesting print variants or other related cards to a set this tough, so I am happy to have a card to slot in as an extra to my set.

Allen is one of the no-names in the T225-2 set. He was left out of the other sets from the same printers, I suspect there may have been some drama after T225-1 and the lithographers subsequently started doing boxers for the much larger ATC. Allen was an alright fighter though, he beat KO Brown twice, Grover Hayes once, who had a very good record but is only in T226. Fought a no decision match with Attell, lost to Pal Moore, Leach Cross and Patsy Kline.

Still looking for Ty Cobb and Kid Beebe to finish my set.
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Old 08-06-2024, 10:23 AM
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Less than $3 per card, the British issues are so wonderfully cheap. Starter set of 29 of the Wills back cards, and I already had Joe Gans, Jack Johnson and James Jeffries so that leaves only 4 cards to complete the Wills issue: Tommy Burns, Young Cohen, Battling Jim Johnson and Sam Langford.
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Cobb is a tough one. Besides the name confusion befuddling some baseball collectors and putting a bit of demand on the card, the fighter (Sammy Kolb) is Jewish and has no other cards I know of, so the card is in demand from collectors of Jewish boxers.
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Old 08-09-2024, 05:15 PM
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Cobb is a tough one. Besides the name confusion befuddling some baseball collectors and putting a bit of demand on the card, the fighter (Sammy Kolb) is Jewish and has no other cards I know of, so the card is in demand from collectors of Jewish boxers.
I do not look forward to paying $250 for a non short-printed scrub . But a complete set needs them all, so I'm going to sucker up on this one
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Old 08-09-2024, 05:22 PM
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The non-ordering info backs are pretty tough on subjects 51-76. Have not put much work in on them but I thought $104 was fair to add another. The fronts are so gorgeous it is difficult to get too excited about the backs, personally.

Kaufman makes for 96 to go on T225-1. This is the easiest set I have left to cross off needs from but the 10 backs and the details effectively restrict pick-ups to eBay because the minutia makes cherry-picking out of dealer or collection stashes without a pic of every cards front and back difficult.

I pick up the Donovan yellow skies variations whenever I see them for $10 or so.
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I do not look forward to paying $250 for a non short-printed scrub . But a complete set needs them all, so I'm going to sucker up on this one
Don’t do it yet. I think I have one and we can make a deal. Let me check when I get back to the office next week.
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Old 08-12-2024, 10:43 AM
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Don’t do it yet. I think I have one and we can make a deal. Let me check when I get back to the office next week.
Thank you Adam, I would very much appreciate it and the chance to buy one and hopefully put this fun little set to bed soon.
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LCS pick up today very happy with this. Only need a low grade Robinson to round out the big ticket guys.
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Picked this one up today, been looking for it.
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Can’t get cooler than Joe Louis followed by Jack Dempsey
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Battling Nelson and Teddy Roosevelt.
Original Pen and Ink by Tad Dorgan (signed).
It was included in Battling Nelson's autobiography (page 50)
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Battling Nelson and Teddy Roosevelt.
Original Pen and Ink by Tad Dorgan (signed).
It was included in Battling Nelson's autobiography (page 50)
Great item! I'm a huge fan of the cartoonist George Herriman (one of his drawings for Krazy Kat is my profile pic) and he was a great friend and admirer of Tad Dorgan. Here's an early Krazy Kat strip circa 1915 drawn in Tad's honor:
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Was gifted this card yesterday, which was very exciting. I have poured a ton of time into trying to decipher N332 and researching it, and little time collecting it as a set as a complete set is effectively impossible and the images have faded so much on most of the cards. Thompson is only my second N332 I actually own.

Mervine Thompson is a guy I don’t know anything about. He is credited as beating Pat Killen in modern sources, but apparently "won" after Killen was DQ’d when his fans stormed the ring after he knocked Thompson down several times and period sources mostly say Mervine lost. I am unable to find another picture of him, only several copies of this photograph on his N332 card. Thompson is described as black in several sources I found, which I did not guess from the picture. An 1895 supplement describes him as “more powerful and more muscular than any of the colored pugilists since 1810”, which seems very difficult to correlate to his ring record or actual performance when Godfrey and Jackson had already had their primes. I always have a fun time with cards of the ‘randoms’ as it gives me a research project and fleshes out the boxing world beyond the bigger names of the time. “The Cleveland Thunderbolt” is an awesome nickname for a prize fighter.
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Interesting article about Mervine Thompson, 1883.
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Was gifted this card yesterday, which was very exciting. I have poured a ton of time into trying to decipher N332 and researching it, and little time collecting it as a set as a complete set is effectively impossible and the images have faded so much on most of the cards. Thompson is only my second N332 I actually own.

Mervine Thompson is a guy I don’t know anything about. He is credited as beating Pat Killen in modern sources, but apparently "won" after Killen was DQ’d when his fans stormed the ring after he knocked Thompson down several times and period sources mostly say Mervine lost. I am unable to find another picture of him, only several copies of this photograph on his N332 card. Thompson is described as black in several sources I found, which I did not guess from the picture. An 1895 supplement describes him as “more powerful and more muscular than any of the colored pugilists since 1810”, which seems very difficult to correlate to his ring record or actual performance when Godfrey and Jackson had already had their primes. I always have a fun time with cards of the ‘randoms’ as it gives me a research project and fleshes out the boxing world beyond the bigger names of the time. “The Cleveland Thunderbolt” is an awesome nickname for a prize fighter.

He does have a small section in Nat Fleischer's 1st "Black Dynamite" volume, but with very little useful information. It does mention he had a better reputation as a wrestler and general athlete, then as a boxer, but not really any info to back that up either.
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