Old man stuck in his ways vent

[Hankphenom]

Originally Posted by Leon

As a lot of us used to be, I was a waiter back in the day. I worked for tips. I generally tip well for average service and better for better service. That all said, you have to admit that some of the point of sale "asking for tips" has gone over the top? Some guy hands me my food as I go through a line, then I pay someone else at the register...take all of my stuff and sit down and eat. And I am tipping those people for what? Because they handed me my food and took my money?

I think it's more because tip jars get split up between the front and the back these days. As you know, they work hard in an uncomfortable and stressful environment and I think of it as a "thank you" of a meaningful manner for the mostly young people who are providing something I'm going to enjoy. If I haven't enjoyed it for whatever reason, there's no tip. If I have, an extra couple of bucks on top of the $10 or $15 I'm spending anyway isn't going to break me. I must say that the knowledge that these (mostly) kids are now making a decent $15 or $20 an hour anyway has me wondering whether a tip is necessary anymore (other than your actual server, if you have one where you eat or drink, who is getting $2.33 an hour and lives on tips), but the reality hasn't changed that it makes me feel good, it's good for the economy, and I still remember what it felt like both to be rewarded with a nice tip and stiffed for no reason. I don't ever want to be the tight-ass who won't tip or won't tip much "on principle." Bullshit. If you have plenty of money for yourself and your family, spread some around to the working stiffs. Babe Ruth famously handed out twenty dollar bills to anybody who ever held a door for him, or hailed a cab. The Babe made a fortune in his day, sure, but we can all do what we can. I say be like Babe.

[philliesfan]

My starting tip is 20% then it goes up or down depending on the service.

[Beercan collector]

I tip much more than I did 20 years ago I figure if someone’s willing to work and has a good attitude they deserve it .
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[Hankphenom]

Originally Posted by philliesfan

My starting tip is 20% then it goes up or down depending on the service.

+1. It's amazing how little it takes in comparison to the total bill to bump it up even to 30% to let the server know that you recognize how good they--and the establishment--were.

[Deertick]

Took my grandson to his 1st regular season MLB game and asked for a hard ticket. Was directed to fan services and he was given a button. I said it doesn't even have the date on it, so they wrote it on the back in sharpie. Later I contacted the office and ranted a little bit about how easy (and inexpensive) it would be to print out a little commemorative ticket or email something that could be printed out. He was sympathetic. He sounded like he was in his 30's and said he has the ticket to his first game and would bring it up as a suggestion to his team.

I WILL be following up after the season, lol. But he will never have a first game again.

And most days I haven't had more than $25 in my wallet since 2012. I have had to walk out of places that don't accept credit/debit many times. I know to hit the ATM if I want to get some Delco cheesesteaks. We can all adapt somewhat.

[Leon]

I still think it's crazy when businesses don't accept cash! Same thing with tickets. It wouldn't be difficult at all to make a ticket that can be printed out at home....

Originally Posted by Deertick

Took my grandson to his 1st regular season MLB game and asked for a hard ticket. Was directed to fan services and he was given a button. I said it doesn't even have the date on it, so they wrote it on the back in sharpie. Later I contacted the office and ranted a little bit about how easy (and inexpensive) it would be to print out a little commemorative ticket or email something that could be printed out. He was sympathetic. He sounded like he was in his 30's and said he has the ticket to his first game and would bring it up as a suggestion to his team.

I WILL be following up after the season, lol. But he will never have a first game again.

And most days I haven't had more than $25 in my wallet since 2012. I have had to walk out of places that don't accept credit/debit many times. I know to hit the ATM if I want to get some Delco cheesesteaks. We can all adapt somewhat.

[BillyCoxDodgers3B]

Originally Posted by Leon

I still think it's crazy when businesses don't accept cash! Same thing with tickets. It wouldn't be difficult at all to make a ticket that can be printed out at home....

True, but that opens up another can of worms. Ticket forgery would be made very easy. How to prevent this? I can't honestly see teams hiring people to man a booth where people wait in line to have a MLB authenticity hologram applied to their self-printed tickets.

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by BillyCoxDodgers3B

True, but that opens up another can of worms. Ticket forgery would be made very easy. How to prevent this? I can't honestly see teams hiring people to man a booth where people wait in line to have a MLB authenticity hologram applied to their self-printed tickets.

I agree. Back when a ticket cost about $10, and computers with printers weren't commonplace, there wasn't much risk to printed tickets, besides losing them. But now, with some tickets at $80 or more, there's a big risk. I've bought tickets from scalpers outside the stadium many times and haven't been burned but imagine how easy it would be to print multiples, perhaps altering row or seat number so they couldn't be traced back to the original buyer.

Why not preserve memory of the event another way? Buy a program and score it, either during the game or days later, by pulling up the game account online. Take a picture with the kids, the field in the background, print on quality photo paper, and then glue the game box score on the back. I'd think those types of things would be more cherished than a plain, barcoded ticket stub.

[Deertick]

Originally Posted by BillyCoxDodgers3B

True, but that opens up another can of worms. Ticket forgery would be made very easy. How to prevent this? I can't honestly see teams hiring people to man a booth where people wait in line to have a MLB authenticity hologram applied to their self-printed tickets.

In the specific case I was referring to, e ticket is already used and a facsimile could be issued. They could even charge a fee for anyone who wanted one. I'm sure the line at the booth would be a lot shorter than the men's room middle of the 7th. Working on the idea of an email, sent AFTER the game along with their 'How'd we do' survey, would allow no piracy.

I think they purely went after this ticketless/cashless gig is great, with out taking into account a lot of us hoarder types

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by Hankphenom

+1. It's amazing how little it takes in comparison to the total bill to bump it up even to 30% to let the server know that you recognize how good they--and the establishment--were.

I’ve been in some hotels recently that add 20% to the restaurant bill as a tip automatically. It drives me nuts. Same hotel in Chicago adds 20% tip to the guy who delivers the cart to the room for room service PLUS a 3% “service charge” (whatever that is) PLUS a $7.50 “delivery charge.” Then I have the option to add an additional tip which I never do and I always feel guilty. How much of a tip does the guy who wheels the cart to my room deserve?

[Hankphenom]

Originally Posted by calvindog

I’ve been in some hotels recently that add 20% to the restaurant bill as a tip automatically. It drives me nuts. Same hotel in Chicago adds 20% tip to the guy who delivers the cart to the room for room service PLUS a 3% “service charge” (whatever that is) PLUS a $7.50 “delivery charge.” Then I have the option to add an additional tip which I never do and I always feel guilty. How much of a tip does the guy who wheels the cart to my room deserve?

Wha? 23%+$7.50 for room service? That IS nuts. Think I'd stay someplace else next time. Should be the same as it's always been, like the bellboy, if they still have them. (Not sure I've ever stayed in a place that did!) A few bucks for humping your luggage up to the room, a few bucks for bringing your food to you, nothing wrong with that. But it should always be up to you. Like any other transaction, if you think you're getting ripped off, protest to the management, fight back.

[frankbmd]

You pay the guy (or girl) who parks your car, you tip the attentive bell boy, you pay the "required" tip at the restaurant and for room service, if a concierge helps you out with arrangements, he deserves a tip and then you get a bill when you check out and WTF is a


RESORT FEE???

[Hankphenom]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

You pay the guy (or girl) who parks your car, you tip the attentive bell boy, you pay the "required" tip at the restaurant and for room service, if a concierge helps you out with arrangements, he deserves a tip and then you get a bill when you check out and WTF is a
RESORT FEE???

That's easy. They'll resort to anything to squeeze another few bucks out of you! No way I'm paying that without asking what it's for, and if I'm not satisfied with the answer, demanding it be taken off the bill.