Hey, pennant guys

[bocca001]

What year is that Yankees pennant with the names around the ball? Same (or close to same) batter appears on some Giants pennants.

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by bocca001

what year is that yankees pennant with the names around the ball? Same (or close to same) batter appears on some giants pennants.

1948

[Domer05]

Originally Posted by bocca001

What year is that Yankees pennant with the names around the ball? Same (or close to same) batter appears on some Giants pennants.

Actually, I believe the pair dates to 1949. (Dodgers didn't win the pennant in '48.)

Interestingly enough, the Dodger companion pennant bears a copyright mark on it: "1949 H. Wohlke." The US Catalogue of Copyright Entries lists this mark as being associated with one Arthur Rand, presumably the artist responsible for the crossed bats and ball artwork. Unclear if the batter was included in the copyright.....

I haven't found much more on this Arthur Rand. "H. Wohlke" was Henry Wohlke, the apparent owner of the copyright. I suspect Henry Wohlke may have owned the company that made these pennants, but I have yet to confirm this.

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by Domer05

Actually, I believe the pair dates to 1949. (Dodgers didn't win the pennant in '48.)

Interestingly enough, the Dodger companion pennant bears a copyright mark on it: "1949 H. Wohlke." The US Catalogue of Copyright Entries lists this mark as being associated with one Arthur Rand, presumably the artist responsible for the crossed bats and ball artwork. Unclear if the batter was included in the copyright.....

I haven't found much more on this Arthur Rand. "H. Wohlke" was Henry Wohlke, the apparent owner of the copyright. I suspect Henry Wohlke may have owned the company that made these pennants, but I have yet to confirm this.

Well...I think this pretty much confirms it.

[thetahat]

HUGE thanks to our friend Domer for making these incredible Pacific Coast League pennants available to me. The Venice Tigers date the group (two-thirds of the entire PCL) to 1913-15 and Marc has helped pinpoint to the same era from another non baseball pennant in this style. These are all 35” long.

They are already in their custom-fitted holders and up for display. If anyone somehow comes across either the LA Angels or Sacramento Solons from this series, kindly give me a holler.

[thetahat]

Also very cool to get this beautiful hand-made repro of the elusive 1916 Dodgers Champions pennant. Incredibly nice!

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by thetahat

HUGE thanks to our friend Domer for making these incredible Pacific Coast League pennants available to me. The Venice Tigers date the group (two-thirds of the entire PCL) to 1913-15 and Marc has helped pinpoint to the same era from another non baseball pennant in this style. These are all 35” long.

They are already in their custom-fitted holders and up for display. If anyone somehow comes across either the LA Angels or Sacramento Solons from this series, kindly give me a holler.

So, those are real deal and not Biebesheimer repros?

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

So, those are real deal and not Biebesheimer repros?

They are real and they’re spectacular …

[MK]

Originally Posted by thetahat

they are real and they’re spectacular …

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by thetahat

They are real and they’re spectacular …

Wow! I didn’t know Kyle was sitting on such a hoard.

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by thetahat

They are real and they’re spectacular …

And just like the PCL Pennants, they measure up at 35"

[UKCardGuy]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

Well...I think this pretty much confirms it.

Great info Kyle. Is it possible that Henry Wohlke worked for one of the pennant companies rather than having his own company?

[Domer05]

Originally Posted by UKCardGuy

Great info Kyle. Is it possible that Henry Wohlke worked for one of the pennant companies rather than having his own company?

Anything's possible. All we know is Henry Wohlke "claimed" (owned) the copyright. And, he's not credited as the artist.

He could have been the attorney that filed the copyright, on behalf of someone else? Most likely, he was some novelty operator that sold pennants in the New York City area.

What's really odd is that the copyright only appears on the Brooklyn pennant--and not the Yankees companion piece from the same '49 world series. Why?
It's the very same artwork!

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by Domer05

Actually, I believe the pair dates to 1949. (Dodgers didn't win the pennant in '48.)

Interestingly enough, the Dodger companion pennant bears a copyright mark on it: "1949 H. Wohlke." The US Catalogue of Copyright Entries lists this mark as being associated with one Arthur Rand, presumably the artist responsible for the crossed bats and ball artwork. Unclear if the batter was included in the copyright.....

I haven't found much more on this Arthur Rand. "H. Wohlke" was Henry Wohlke, the apparent owner of the copyright. I suspect Henry Wohlke may have owned the company that made these pennants, but I have yet to confirm this.

Your research continues to blow my mind.