NonSports Forum

Net54baseball.com
Welcome to Net54baseball.com. These forums are devoted to both Pre- and Post- war baseball cards and vintage memorabilia, as well as other sports. There is a separate section for Buying, Selling and Trading - the B/S/T area!! If you write anything concerning a person or company your full name needs to be in your post or obtainable from it. . Contact the moderator at leon@net54baseball.com should you have any questions or concerns. When you click on links to eBay on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network. Enjoy!
Net54baseball.com
Net54baseball.com
ebay GSB
T206s on eBay
Babe Ruth Cards on eBay
t206 Ty Cobb on eBay
Ty Cobb Cards on eBay
Lou Gehrig Cards on eBay
Baseball T201-T217 on eBay
Baseball E90-E107 on eBay
T205 Cards on eBay
Baseball Postcards on eBay
Goudey Cards on eBay
Baseball Memorabilia on eBay
Baseball Exhibit Cards on eBay
Baseball Strip Cards on eBay
Baseball Baking Cards on eBay
Sporting News Cards on eBay
Play Ball Cards on eBay
Joe DiMaggio Cards on eBay
Mickey Mantle Cards on eBay
Bowman 1951-1955 on eBay
Football Cards on eBay

Go Back   Net54baseball.com Forums > Net54baseball Main Forum - WWII & Older Baseball Cards > Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 07-26-2024, 03:37 PM
sflayank sflayank is online now
larry s
larry ser.ota
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: sunrise fl
Posts: 4,889
Default 49 bowman mystery remains unsolved

A pack orange green opened had 2nd series bowman
A pack red white blue opened had 2nd series bowmans
Why they made 2 different boxes and wrappers
Will remain a mystery
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 07-26-2024, 08:40 PM
molenick's Avatar
molenick molenick is offline
Michael
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 830
Default

Although not quite a haiku, there is something poetic about this to me.
__________________
My avatar is a drawing of a 1958 Topps Hank Aaron by my daughter. If you are interested in one in a similar style based on the card of your choice, details can be found by searching threads with the title phrase Custom Baseball Card Artwork or by PMing me.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 07-27-2024, 07:44 AM
ALR-bishop ALR-bishop is offline
Al Richter
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: San Antonio
Posts: 9,392
Default

I would be personally grateful if you could figure it out Larry and report back
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 07-28-2024, 08:28 AM
sflayank sflayank is online now
larry s
larry ser.ota
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: sunrise fl
Posts: 4,889
Default

48 49 50 51 52 are all red white and blue..wrappers and boxes
Why green orange 49 also?
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 07-28-2024, 08:52 AM
ALR-bishop ALR-bishop is offline
Al Richter
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: San Antonio
Posts: 9,392
Default

Larry---I keep these two wrappers with my 49 Bowman set. Also have the 49 Bowman PCL set. Any chance the different wrapper was associated with distribution of the PCL set as well as 2nd series regular ?
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 2024-07-28_094813.jpg (175.8 KB, 568 views)
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 07-28-2024, 09:47 AM
Fballguy's Avatar
Fballguy Fballguy is offline
Rob
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: USA
Posts: 1,871
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sflayank View Post
A pack orange green opened had 2nd series bowman
A pack red white blue opened had 2nd series bowmans
Why they made 2 different boxes and wrappers
Will remain a mystery
With a little more refinement, we'd have a Haiku
__________________
R0b G0ul3t

Visit www.feltfootball.com the largest pennant gallery on the internet
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 07-28-2024, 09:49 AM
sflayank sflayank is online now
larry s
larry ser.ota
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: sunrise fl
Posts: 4,889
Default 49 bowmans

Until an unopened pack of pcl shows up i dont think we will know
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 07-28-2024, 10:38 AM
ALR-bishop ALR-bishop is offline
Al Richter
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: San Antonio
Posts: 9,392
Default

The pack has to show AND then owner has to want to open it 😱
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 07-28-2024, 12:36 PM
Webster Webster is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 763
Default 1949 Orange and Green

Although this MAY or MAY NOT have been a legitimate unopened pack (it was rejected by Steve at BBC) we should be clear about what was pulled. THEY WERE NOT ALL FROM THE SAME SERIES:

Card:
Wehmeier 51
Scheffing 83
Lehner 131
McBride 74
Litwhiler 97
Page 62

I do not know exactly how the series break down, but I am quite sure 51 and 131 are in different series. Anyone have an accurate breakdown to post?
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 07-28-2024, 01:21 PM
sflayank sflayank is online now
larry s
larry ser.ota
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: sunrise fl
Posts: 4,889
Default Pcl

Most think the pcl didnt even come in packs
Sheets of 36 that were cut up
So the mystery remains
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 07-28-2024, 01:52 PM
G1911 G1911 is offline
Gr.eg McCl.@y
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 7,420
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Webster View Post
Although this MAY or MAY NOT have been a legitimate unopened pack (it was rejected by Steve at BBC) we should be clear about what was pulled. THEY WERE NOT ALL FROM THE SAME SERIES:

Card:
Wehmeier 51
Scheffing 83
Lehner 131
McBride 74
Litwhiler 97
Page 62

I do not know exactly how the series break down, but I am quite sure 51 and 131 are in different series. Anyone have an accurate breakdown to post?
The conventional story is:
1: 1-3, 5-36, 73
2: 37-72
3: 4, 74-108
4: 109-144
5: 145-180
6: 181-216
7: 217-240
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 08-01-2024, 11:00 AM
danmckee danmckee is offline
member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 1,547
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sflayank View Post
A pack orange green opened had 2nd series bowman
A pack red white blue opened had 2nd series bowmans
Why they made 2 different boxes and wrappers
Will remain a mystery
No mystery at all

The Orange Green is a 1 cent pack and Box

The Blue Red is a 5 Cent pack and Box
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 08-01-2024, 11:40 AM
Webster Webster is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 763
Default 1949 Bowman

That's an interesting theory, except:

1. There is no indication on the Orange/Green Box that it is a 1 cent pack:

https://rockhurstauctions.com/LotDet...entoryid=10478

2. There were six cards in the Orange/Green pack and 5 cards in the R/W/B pack. 1 cent packs typically had just one or two cards.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 08-01-2024, 02:35 PM
danmckee danmckee is offline
member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 1,547
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Webster View Post
That's an interesting theory, except:

1. There is no indication on the Orange/Green Box that it is a 1 cent pack:

https://rockhurstauctions.com/LotDet...entoryid=10478

2. There were six cards in the Orange/Green pack and 5 cards in the R/W/B pack. 1 cent packs typically had just one or two cards.
Are we sure there were that many cards in there? I know 1952 topps 5 cents packs have 6 cards. Though there are no markings on the Orange and Green box and wrapper, I still like it as the 1 cent. They had to have had a 1 cent wrapper and box like they did in 1950 and 51 and 52. But who knows, I wasn't around to open them in 1949.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 08-02-2024, 03:09 PM
Buckeyez Buckeyez is offline
James
member
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Chicago
Posts: 38
Default Interesting. But the real mystery of the 1949 Bowman set is....

Why the #114, a non-short print, mid-level star is so difficult to find?
Reply With Quote
Reply




Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
1949 bowman display box REA mystery solved sflayank Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 28 12-09-2022 10:29 AM
1954 BOWMAN printing plates solve the Ted Williams mystery...Let's see your TW cards tedzan Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 10 05-30-2019 09:18 AM
That one card that remains... refz Postwar Baseball Cards Forum (Pre-1980) 4 01-19-2015 11:42 PM
'49 Bowman Muncrief mystery Bob Lemke Postwar Baseball Cards Forum (Pre-1980) 1 02-19-2011 12:43 PM
A Robert Stack, Unsolved Mystery.... Vol Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 6 11-23-2010 08:58 AM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:03 AM.


ebay GSB