Some autos I won at a local auction for $10

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

I'm so glad I don't collect autographs.

+1 I am so glad I sold the majority of mine when the signed T206 scandal hit and no longer buy any.

[gonefishin]

Hi there. Just wondering why you ask the forum for their opinion and everyone said "No Good", and you're still sending to PSA? Why ask for the opinion? Is it to prove everyone wrong or just hoping for the best?

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by gonefishin

Hi there. Just wondering why you ask the forum for their opinion and everyone said "No Good", and you're still sending to PSA? Why ask for the opinion? Is it to prove everyone wrong or just hoping for the best?

cause he likes to burn money and has a "listening to others that know more" problem.

[bullgill]

Wow, did not mean to upset anybody. Apologies if I did! I respect this forum and it has been a good asset over the years.

[philliesfan]

I have no idea if the signatures are good or not but, it may be a photocopy?
I am not sure but the first thing I would do is to look at it under light so you can see the glare on the picture from the light. If the glare is the same on the photo as it is on the signature, then they are not original signatures. The Sharpie would have a different kind or no obvious glare. At least I think this may be right?
Bob

[etsmith]

The autographs look really off from authentic examples, but it's sometimes hard to explain it in plain terms.

[bullgill]

Both of these came from the same lot as this one. If maybe that adds some provenance.

https://www.net54baseball.com/showth...85#post2451485

[Hankphenom]

Originally Posted by bnorth

+1 I am so glad I sold the majority of mine when the signed T206 scandal hit and no longer buy any.

Not trying to be a contrarian here, and no question caution is required when collecting autographs. BUT...how many fake signed t206s got past SGC, wasn't it on the order of a dozen or so and a couple more from PSA? Whatever it was, in the total universe of authenticated autographs, I think the applicable phrase might be negligible bordering on infinitesimal, so I don't see how that would sour anybody on one of the great hobbies in the world. Maybe if you were one of those victimized, but even so it wouldn't seem to be on the level of buying a house with plumbing that all had to be replaced, so you're never going to buy another house? No, you'll learn a lesson and move on, that's all.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Hankphenom

Not trying to be a contrarian here, and no question caution is required when collecting autographs. BUT...how many fake signed t206s got past SGC, wasn't it on the order of a dozen or so and a couple more from PSA? Whatever it was, in the total universe of authenticated autographs, I think the applicable phrase might be negligible bordering on infinitesimal, so I don't see how that would sour anybody on one of the great hobbies in the world. Maybe if you were one of those victimized, but even so it wouldn't seem to be on the level of buying a house with plumbing that all had to be replaced, so you're never going to buy another house? No, you'll learn a lesson and move on, that's all.

I didn't have a very big collection. I am not a fan of grading in any form unless I am selling something. I honestly didn't want to put in the time to learn to be confidant in my own judgement to buy more. So for me I just sold most of what I had and have never looked back.

[rjackson44]

these look like autos that are sold in malls at the back of the sporting goods store. one more horrible then the other

[Hankphenom]

Originally Posted by bnorth

I didn't have a very big collection. I am not a fan of grading in any form unless I am selling something. I honestly didn't want to put in the time to learn to be confidant in my own judgement to buy more. So for me I just sold most of what I had and have never looked back.

Sure, that makes sense in that we all make our judgements about what we want to put our money into collecting and what we don't, i.e., what does it for us and what doesn't. My point was just that for those for whom autographs do it, the advent of grading by top experts is a godsend that assures a degree of reliability approaching certainty. The difference in the value of graded versus ungraded examples demonstrates conclusively where the market stands on the issue.