Poll - Greatest Living Player

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Are you talking about Arod? Because that is what I remember about him. I believe Boggs batted around .360 with runners in scoring position.

Not an easy stat to find, but finally found it for individual players on baseball-reference.com. Boggs hit .324 with RISP. ARod was .292.

I haven't been able to find a career leaderboard anywhere.

[brian1961]

Originally Posted by jayshum

Not an easy stat to find, but finally found it for individual players on baseball-reference.com. Boggs hit .324 with RISP. ARod was .292.

I haven't been able to find a career leaderboard anywhere.

Jay, a player's batting average with runners in scoring position is definitely an interesting stat. The top 2 best seasons for a player were:

1. Freddie Lindstrom, Giants, 1930 --- .480 (59 for 123)

2. George Brett, Royals, 1980 --- .469

Jay, check RETROSHEET, which is either part of SABR or Baseball-Reference.com Hope this helps, friend. --- Brian Powell

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by brian1961

Jay, a player's batting average with runners in scoring position is definitely an interesting stat. The top 2 best seasons for a player were:

1. Freddie Lindstrom, Giants, 1930 --- .480 (59 for 123)

2. George Brett, Royals, 1980 --- .469

Jay, check RETROSHEET, which is either part of SABR or Baseball-Reference.com Hope this helps, friend. --- Brian Powell

Brain, I don't see anything on RetroSheet either about all time leaders in RISP.

[Tabe]

Originally Posted by brian1961

Jay, a player's batting average with runners in scoring position is definitely an interesting stat. The top 2 best seasons for a player were:

1. Freddie Lindstrom, Giants, 1930 --- .480 (59 for 123)

2. George Brett, Royals, 1980 --- .469

Jay, check RETROSHEET, which is either part of SABR or Baseball-Reference.com Hope this helps, friend. --- Brian Powell

Ichiro hit .445 as a rookie with RISP, including .546 with the bases loaded.

[isiahfan]

Picked Bonds as well.....but surprised that AROD only has 2 votes....if picking a player for a team.....all other things aside....and you can grab a good SS that hits almost 700HR.....sign me up!

[darwinbulldog]

Originally Posted by isiahfan

Picked Bonds as well.....but surprised that AROD only has 2 votes....if picking a player for a team.....all other things aside....and you can grab a good SS that hits almost 700HR.....sign me up!

Right? The number of people who think not only that they like Jeter more but who sincerely believe he was a better baseball player than A-Rod still surprises me.

[jingram058]

Originally Posted by darwinbulldog

Right? The number of people who think not only that they like Jeter more but who sincerely believe he was a better baseball player than A-Rod still surprises me.

Officially, he is. Because he didn't illegally juice. Why do you guys pretend that it never happened?

[aro13]

For anyone that saw Koufax pitch he will always be the greatest pitcher they ever saw. Nobody can change that.

However, no one had more circumstances or advantages that favored him than probably anyone in history including Bonds.

He was a very good pitcher up until 1961 who happened to pitch in a lousy home park in the Coliseum. In 1962 the Dodgers moved to Dodger Stadium the greatest pitchers park in history. In 1963 the strike zone was made larger both up (a huge advantage for fastball pitchers that worked up in the zone) and down. In 1962 mound heights were virtually ignored and when Koufax pitched in Dodger Stadium he was pitching down hill. At home Koufax walked 2.1 men per nine on the road 3.5 men per nine. Check out the perfect game by Koufax when a complete unknown named Bob Hendley threw a one hitter in the same game. The mound height was crazy high.

The best example of the mound height and the influence in Dodger Stadium is in 1964 when Dean Chance of the Angels (who happened to be playing their home games in Dodger Stadium until Anaheim stadium was built) won the CY Young award by posting a 1.07 era at Dodger Stadium.

Evaluating Koufax is really hard, if you just look at the raw numbers he has a place in the discussion for greatest ever but if you look at the circumstances it sways the decision. I don't know where to put him, but you would likely be better off trying to convince people that the world is flat than Koufax wasn't an elite pitcher.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by jingram058

Officially, he is. Because he didn't illegally juice. Why do you guys pretend that it never happened?

Probably because most are naming a player that they are totally overlooking their PED use because it didn't happen in the so called steroid era.. LOL, seriously Roger Maris was named as a clean player in this thread. The same guy that played 12 years and hit 22% of his total HRs in one season. If he played in the steroid era with those exact same numbers is there anyone who would believe that was a PED free season?

[Carter08]

Originally Posted by jingram058

Officially, he is. Because he didn't illegally juice. Why do you guys pretend that it never happened?

Would take Jeter over Arod hands down, especially in the playoffs.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by darwinbulldog

Right? The number of people who think not only that they like Jeter more but who sincerely believe he was a better baseball player than A-Rod still surprises me.

Of course there is no comparison, but Jeter was everything intangible that ARod was not -- clean, modest, team oriented, and at least perceived to be a clutch hitter. The perfect foil to the ultimate prima donna.

[brianp-beme]

Originally Posted by isiahfan

Picked Bonds as well.....but surprised that AROD only has 2 votes....if picking a player for a team.....all other things aside....and you can grab a good SS that hits almost 700HR.....sign me up!

Alex Rodriguez, along with Mookie Betts and Steve Carlton, are currently the only players in the poll to have 0 votes.

Brian

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by jayshum

Not an easy stat to find, but finally found it for individual players on baseball-reference.com. Boggs hit .324 with RISP. ARod was .292.

I haven't been able to find a career leaderboard anywhere.

Thanks for finding that. I had just rewatched Boggs 3000th hit game a few days ago and would have sworn I seen that stat when he was up to bat. I just rewatched his at bats and Wade hit .361 lifetime with the bases loaded according to his second at bat stats they displayed.

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Thanks for finding that. I had just rewatched Boggs 3000th hit game a few days ago and would have sworn I seen that stat when he was up to bat. I just rewatched his at bats and Wade hit .361 lifetime with the bases loaded according to his second at bat stats they displayed.

Here's how to find it for individual players on baseball-reference.com. After going to a player's page, scroll toward the bottom where it lists More Pages. Under Batting Splits, you can choose Career or an individual season. On the next page, open the listing for Show Bases Occupied.