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Old 06-18-2024, 05:58 PM
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God, it's frustrating reading argumentative threads like this. Why hasn't anyone posted the source photo that apparently is so well known????

After digging and digging, I ran across this image which is purportedly from a 1928 Japanese magazine...

BabeRuth1928Japanesemagazine2.jpg


They made the player much more squat looking and darkened everything, while removing a good amount of his telltale facial features (most notably the eyes) to probably turn him into a more generic 'ballplayer.'

To me, this is another example of:

732. Shtick Figures (also Packsimiles)
The colorful illustrations of baseball players found adorning vintage wrappers, boxes and other packaging which were obviously intended to resemble real major leaguers, but whose facial and/or other features were altered slightly to make them ‘different’ people.

BabeRuth1928JapanesemagazineCOMP2.jpg
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God, it's frustrating reading argumentative threads like this. Why hasn't anyone posted the source photo that apparently is so well known????

After digging and digging, I ran across this image which is purportedly from a 1928 Japanese magazine...

Attachment 625335


They made the player much more squat looking and darkened everything, while removing a good amount of his telltale facial features (most notably the eyes) to probably turn him into a more generic 'ballplayer.'

To me, this is another example of:

732. Shtick Figures (also Packsimiles)
The colorful illustrations of baseball players found adorning vintage wrappers, boxes and other packaging which were obviously intended to resemble real major leaguers, but whose facial and/or other features were altered slightly to make them ‘different’ people.

Attachment 625336
I appreciate you doing the legwork on this one and that is the photo that I remember came from Japanese publication.
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Shonen magazine?
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God, it's frustrating reading argumentative threads like this. Why hasn't anyone posted the source photo that apparently is so well known????

After digging and digging, I ran across this image which is purportedly from a 1928 Japanese magazine...

Attachment 625335


They made the player much more squat looking and darkened everything, while removing a good amount of his telltale facial features (most notably the eyes) to probably turn him into a more generic 'ballplayer.'

To me, this is another example of:

732. Shtick Figures (also Packsimiles)
The colorful illustrations of baseball players found adorning vintage wrappers, boxes and other packaging which were obviously intended to resemble real major leaguers, but whose facial and/or other features were altered slightly to make them ‘different’ people.

Attachment 625336
Aha ! Wonderful thank you
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OK...so my question is why do they grade all the wrong picture/name combos. For instance, a 1963 Don Landrum, that is actually a picture of Ron Santo, is graded as a "Don Landrum." If they're going to be a stickler on an obvious Ruth, why not on strive for "accuracy" on cards like that? So the take away is that they only grade the printed word, with no regard for the players pictured. Whatever...we all know who the guys are.

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OK...so my question is why do they grade all the wrong picture/name combos. For instance, a 1963 Don Landrum, that is actually a picture of Ron Santo, is graded as a "Don Landrum." If they're going to be a stickler on an obvious Ruth, why not on strive for "accuracy" on cards like that? So the take away is that they only grade the printed word, with no regard for the players pictured. Whatever...we all know who the guys are.
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This is not a Jackie Robinson card. This is a Roberto Barbon card. (as labeled on the card, and as intended for the Japanese players at the time). The card manufacturer just used the wrong photo...
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To me, this is another example of:

732. Shtick Figures (also Packsimiles)
The colorful illustrations of baseball players found adorning vintage wrappers, boxes and other packaging which were obviously intended to resemble real major leaguers, but whose facial and/or other features were altered slightly to make them ‘different’ people.

Attachment 625336
Like the inimitable Balko Tuzmon? Make me laugh every time I see it.

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[QUOTE=Aquarian Sports Cards;2442126]Like the inimitable Balko Tuzmon? Make me laugh every time I see it.

Ha, I always forget about that one! Where are the fantasy card makers when you need them.
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No mention of Ruth on back
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