It's Closing Night of a Great Vintage Auction

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

Quite frankly I wouldn't want to cost my hobby friends one penny more than the already outrageous prices we are paying for little pictures of men on cardboard.

So if there's an item that you and I like but you want it more I'm going to stand aside out of respect for our friendship, unless I want it more than you and am willing to pay the freight.

You call it collusion, I get that your lawyer brain is kicking in, but I don't see it that way. I've been on the other side and enjoyed auction night where a rare card I owned went for dirt cheap and congratulated the winner in my mind. I've also had cards sell for more than I ever expected and thought how lucky I was that two drunk guys had a bidding war late at night. To me that's the fun of our hobby. Yes, this stuff is expensive but at the end of the day, to me, it's just a vehicle to meet some pretty awesome people and have some fun putting collections together.

My lawyer brain is only kicking in because you changed your tune from it's a good thing and bidding against a friend is the worst thing in the world to it has no consequence, after it was pointed out it could be considered problematic. Anyhow, in the scheme of things it's a blip. Carry on.

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

My lawyer brain is only kicking in because you changed your tune from it's a good thing and bidding against a friend is the worst thing in the world to it has no consequence, after it was pointed out it could be considered problematic. Anyhow, in the scheme of things it's a blip. Carry on.

Not at all, I wouldn't want to run you up out of respect for our relationship, if, on auction night with all the extenuating circumstances that happen on auction nights and I communicated with you that I was going higher I would expect the same respect.

I have to admit I'm a little befuddled here, what this thread has taught me is to be grateful for the hobby friends that I enjoy interacting with.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

Not at all, I wouldn't want to run you up out of respect for our relationship, if, on auction night with all the extenuating circumstances that happen on auction nights and I communicated with you that I was going higher I would expect the same respect.

I have to admit I'm a little befuddled here, what this thread has taught me is to be grateful for the hobby friends that I enjoy interacting with.

How do you think the consignor would view it, if two friends deciding which one should bid out of "respect" kept his realized price down?

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

How do you think the consignor would view it, if two friends deciding which one should bid out of "respect" kept his realized price down?

Like I said previously, I've been that consignor and have been happy someone got a good deal.

Do you buy at auction?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

Like I said previously, I've been that consignor and have been happy someone got a good deal.

Do you buy at auction?

Sometimes, but not as often as most people here I don't think. I generally don't trust them with certain exceptions.

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Sometimes, but not as often as most people here I don't think. I generally don't trust them with certain exceptions.

You and I have more in common than not but if my behavior constitutes collusion then Al, Scott, Lee, etc can look up my Consignment/purchase and ban me if they think my "collusion" had any bearing on results.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

You and I have more in common than not but if my behavior constitutes collusion then Al, Scott, Lee, etc can look up my Consignment/purchase and ban me if they think my "collusion" had any bearing on results.

Let me give you a realistic scenario though. Suppose auction house X has 4 cards up for auction from the same set that the top two registry guys need and would kill for. These two guys are going to go much higher than anyone else. Suppose they get together and decide, rather than killing each other, you take two, I'll take two, and we won't bid on the other two. Legit?