Paul Skenes Superfractor Ends in Goldin

[Centauri]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

How are those 1/1 Wander Franco rookie cards tracking?

Wander became worthless, but not because of his production in the majors - the hype was proven well founded there. Dude was elite.

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by Centauri

Wander became worthless, but not because of his production in the majors - the hype was proven well founded there. Dude was elite.

I know it's two different markets but I think pre-war is much safer, we already know what Ty Cobb did on the field, we already know that Hal Chase and Cap Anson were shitheads.

With modern you never know if someone is getting injured or catching charges, I guess thats the gamble though.

Personally, I feel much safer buying a 1914 CJ Jackson for the same price as a guy who played 4 games but that's just me.

[BioCRN]

Is there anyone that thinks this card was purchased by a Paul Skenes super fan?

It's gambling...I mean, prospecting. Yeah, prospecting.

In other areas beyond the crazy price for a high-end super-prospect there's lesser Superfractor "prospectors" paying thousands of dollars for guys that only have a sliver of Skenes's talent hoping they can flip it during a hot point in their career.

Someone paid $1000 for a Edouard Julien RC Superfractor (PSA 10) 2 weeks ago. He's a defensive average-at-best 25 year old 2nd baseman slashing .245/.358/.428 in 602 PA over 2 seasons...and doing worse this season compared to last year.

The buy-in is much bigger, but I like the chances for the Skenes investor over guys chasing talent like Julien.

[Gorditadogg]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

I know it's two different markets but I think pre-war is much safer, we already know what Ty Cobb did on the field, we already know that Hal Chase and Cap Anson were shitheads.



With modern you never know if someone is getting injured or catching charges, I guess thats the gamble though.



Personally, I feel much safer buying a 1914 CJ Jackson for the same price as a guy who played 4 games but that's just me.

Obviously, there's additional risk when you need to project a player's career, rather than waiting until they've retired. And sure, a lot of people seem to over-estimate what will happen, driving up prices a bit.

But when I see right here in the BST section that you need to pay $6,000 for a 1-of-1 card of Herbie Moran, an outfielder who ended with 2 career home runs (and it's not even autographed), $80k for Skenes doesn't seem so bad.

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[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by Gorditadogg

Obviously, there's additional risk when you need to project a player's career, rather than waiting until they've retired. And sure, a lot of people seem to over-estimate what will happen, driving up prices a bit.

But when I see right here in the BST section that you need to pay $6,000 for a 1-of-1 card of Herbie Moran, an outfielder who ended with 2 career home runs (and it's not even autographed), $80k for Skenes doesn't seem so bad.

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Yea, that's just crazy in my opinion when you can buy a 1907 Dietsche Cobb for the same amount, but to each their own.

[packs]

I think we should recognize that there are equally as nutty valuations in pre-war. I'm sure a modern collector will have just as big laugh on a guy who spends a few thousand bucks on a Louis Lowdermilk T207. He of his 4 and 5 career record.

[Carter08]

Originally Posted by packs

I think we should recognize that there are equally as nutty valuations in pre-war. I'm sure a modern collector will have just as big laugh on a guy who spends a few thousand bucks on a Louis Lowdermilk T207. He of his 4 and 5 career record.

Don’t forget the huge price difference depending on what cigarette brand happens to be on the back of a card.

[packs]

Or the other esoteric value indicators like a dog being pictured on an Art Whitney Old Judge. Always going to cost you a few hundred dollars more to own that dog.