CSG/CGC is awesome

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by swarmee

Same with SGC and now BGS. It's PSA or nothing, pretty much.

SGC has lagged for a while, but not this badly. Beckett seems to be collapsing. I just hope Star Basketball, which does not cross well to PSA due to centering for some of the major cards, retains value.

[philliesfan]

Does PSA grade Star Basketball?

[Harliduck]

As a buyer, I completely disregard anything in their holders. SGC on vintage, PSA on new stuff. I'm only commenting because I am not special, I can only imagine there are many, many like me. I have no issue with them in all reality, and am not some loyal grading company nut (in fact, necessary evil as far as I'm concerned), just literally zero interest in anything in their holders. If I was in the market for that card, I would have scrolled past it without a second look...regardless of price.

[GasHouseGang]

I've only got a couple of cards in their earliest type of holder. They look nice, but I didn't expect them to make me a lot of money. How can anyone hope to break the monopoly PSA has on grading cards? I think if some entity showed up with a good looking holder, established a registry, and used non-biased "machine grading" instead of human opinion, they might have a chance to become the new standard. Otherwise, I think people will continue to pay to have PSA grading and SGC will continue to be in second place.

[Zach Wheat]

It's also the crossover issue. Most non-PSA graded cards don't cross over to a comparable grade, imho. I recently attempted to cross over some graded cards from other companies and 2 were equivalent, with the rest an avg of 1.5-2 grades less.

[hcv123]

Originally Posted by Zach Wheat

It's also the crossover issue. Most non-PSA graded cards don't cross over to a comparable grade, imho. I recently attempted to cross over some graded cards from other companies and 2 were equivalent, with the rest an avg of 1.5-2 grades less.

In my experience they don't cross most of the time because they are held to a different standard. Which ultimately is why PSA and SGC cards sell for more(sometimes remarkably so) at an equivalent numeric grade. Differences between SGC and PSA are more complicated.

[raulus]

Originally Posted by hcv123

In my experience they don't cross most of the time because they are held to a different standard. Which ultimately is why PSA and SGC cards sell for more(sometimes remarkably so) at an equivalent numeric grade. Differences between SGC and PSA are more complicated.

Howard - are you talking about crossing in the slab?

What about cracking and submitting outside of the slab?