Paul Skenes Superfractor Ends in Goldin

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Or Doc Gooden.

But Gooden had a pretty good(en) hahaha, 10 year run (154-81, 3.04 ERA) while Fidrych was arguably done after his fantastic rookie year.

If Skenes is the next Gooden, that card retains / gains value for awhile, if he is the next Fidrych, then bicycle spokes await considerably sooner...

Similarity scores for Fidrych are Satchel Paige his rookie year, then Gus Krock the next.

Gooden has Kid Nichols, Drysdale, Clemens, Verlander in his as he gets older

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by doug.goodman

But Gooden had a pretty good(en) hahaha, 10 year run (154-81, 3.04 ERA) while Fidrych was arguably done after his fantastic rookie year.

If Skenes is the next Gooden, that card retains / gains value for awhile, if he is the next Fidrych, then bicycle spokes await considerably sooner...

Fair enough, although in context I still consider Gooden as a huge bust relative to his beginning and otherworldly talent.

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Fair enough, although in context I still consider Gooden as a huge bust relative to his beginning and otherworldly talent.

100% agreed, I'm just saying he had a "career" while Fidrych only graced us with a season. Poor guy. Still a legend.

[Seven]

For 80K you could buy a solid group of five vintage cards in lower grades and still have money to spare. Modern continues to boggle my mind. Even more so the fact that he's a pitcher. He can easily go the way of Strasburg, or Lincecum, have multiple dominant seasons and then fall off the rails due to injuries.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Seven

For 80K you could buy a solid group of five vintage cards in lower grades and still have money to spare. Modern continues to boggle my mind. Even more so the fact that he's a pitcher. He can easily go the way of Strasburg, or Lincecum, have multiple dominant seasons and then fall off the rails due to injuries.

Nobody is buying this for his collection, it's just a commodity to try to flip at the right time. It feels too early to me even for that, but then again I don't have four social media accounts, three devices, endless t shirts or a three day growth of beard and a backwards ball cap.

[Seven]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Nobody is buying this for his collection, it's just a commodity to try to flip at the right time. It feels too early to me even for that, but then again I don't have four social media accounts, three devices, endless t shirts or a three day growth of beard and a backwards ball cap.

Peter,

I fully know that, and I hate that part of the hobby has essentially turned into some gamified version of the stock market.

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by Seven

Peter,

I fully know that, and I hate that part of the hobby has essentially turned into some gamified version of the stock market.

I don't consider it a part of the hobby, it is it's own entity.

When Upper Deck perfected the chase card in 1989 (or was it 1990) it caused me to mostly stop buying cards in packs, and aimed me backwards (more than I had been), so I thank them for helping me accumulate a lot of cool old stuff, most of which isn't worth much, but sure is fun.

As an example, I discovered a new Bobby Doerr m114 variation today. Woohoo!

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Seven

Peter,

I fully know that, and I hate that part of the hobby has essentially turned into some gamified version of the stock market.

Greater fool theory.

[CobbSpikedMe]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Nobody is buying this for his collection, it's just a commodity to try to flip at the right time. It feels too early to me even for that, but then again I don't have four social media accounts, three devices, endless t shirts or a three day growth of beard and a backwards ball cap.

Remember Jasson Dominquez hadn't even played a major league game and his stuff was selling for crazy money years ago. He still hasn't played a major league game and if called up to the Yankees tomorrow, he would be a bench player.


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[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by CobbSpikedMe

Remember Jasson Dominquez hadn't even played a major league game and his stuff was selling for crazy money years ago. He still hasn't played a major league game and if called up to the Yankees tomorrow, he would be a bench player.


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He did play in 8 ML games last year. Hit 4 HR. So he is on the way!!

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Nobody is buying this for his collection, it's just a commodity to try to flip at the right time. It feels too early to me even for that, but then again I don't have four social media accounts, three devices, endless t shirts or a three day growth of beard and a backwards ball cap.

Did you lose your ball cap?

[Tabe]

Originally Posted by doug.goodman

But Gooden had a pretty good(en) hahaha, 10 year run (154-81, 3.04 ERA) while Fidrych was arguably done after his fantastic rookie year.

Fidrych was even better his second season before getting hurt. He had a 1.70 ERA and was 5 innings deep into a shutout when he got hurt. After that, he was finished.

Fidrych found out years later he had a torn rotator cuff.