Take Note, Ty Cobb Fans

[ChasingPaper]

Originally Posted by campyfan39

I hate it personally.
The record keeping, competition, schedules etc. were all totally different. Seems no matter what has been done to try to recognize the accomplishments of the Negro Leagues, its not ever enough.

We going to add Japanese league or barnstorming or minor league stats? Dominican leagues?

100% this.

[packs]

I just find that viewpoint bizarre. Major league Baseball made a very deliberate decision to include Negro League stats. Why would people take that deliberate, measured, and well thought out decision, and decide that MLB would lose all sight of what they're doing and recognize stats from barnstorming games?

I find it equally bizarre that people would suggest the Negro League talent level was sub-par but not make the same general point about MLB players not competing against Negro League players. You can't say that the Negro League had sub-pro level players without making the same point about the MLB not competing against them.

[Moonlight Graham]

I say keep the stats separate. The same way you have separate museums-one in Cooperstown and one in Missouri. Each museum details the story of each particular baseball history.

[cgjackson222]

Originally Posted by Moonlight Graham

I say keep the stats separate. The same way you have separate museums-one in Cooperstown and one in Missouri. Each museum details the story of each particular baseball history.

You do realize that there are many players that solely played in the Negro Leagues enshrined in Cooperstown, right?

Cooperstown gets a lot more visitors than the Negro League Hall of Fame in Kansas City.

Similarly, by integrating the stats of the 7 Major Negro Leagues with the MLB you are providing a lot more recognition of the talent in the Negro Leagues than if you kept them separate.

[Moonlight Graham]

Originally Posted by cgjackson222

You do realize that there are many players that solely played in the Negro Leagues enshrined in Cooperstown, right?

Cooperstown gets a lot more visitors than the Negro League Hall of Fame in Kansas City.

Similarly, by integrating the stats of the 7 Major Negro Leagues with the MLB you are providing a lot more recognition of the talent in the Negro Leagues than if you kept them separate.

I do realize that, but history is history.

Joe K.

[gonefishin]

Just wondering if we will now have 3 women that have played in MLB; Toni Stone, Connie Morgan and Peanut Johnson?

[cgjackson222]

Originally Posted by gonefishin

Just wondering if we will now have 3 women that have played in MLB; Toni Stone, Connie Morgan and Peanut Johnson?

I don't think any of those 3 women played in any of the 7 Major Negro Leagues prior to integration. I think they all played in the 50's after integration, and after what is considered Major Negro League play ceased.

[molenick]

Originally Posted by gonefishin

Just wondering if we will now have 3 women that have played in MLB; Toni Stone, Connie Morgan and Peanut Johnson?

I had never heard of these women and was curious. Since they all played in what was left of the Negro Leagues in the 1950's, and since the recognition of the Negro Leagues as major leagues only covers 1920-1948, I don't think they would be considered as having played in MLB.

[gonefishin]

Originally Posted by molenick

I had never heard of these women and was curious. Since they all played in what was left of the Negro Leagues in the 1950's, and since the recognition of the Negro Leagues as major leagues only covers 1920-1948, I don't think they would be considered as having played in MLB.

I don't think they received much publicity, but I'm glad I held on to this signed baseball by all 3.

[aljurgela]

these guys do deserve respect for sure (as do their cards)....