Why has Cobb gone to the moon

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by Hankphenom

I thought L.A. was supposed to be in the toilet--I've seen the pictures of the homeless encampments, why would anyone want to live THERE? I thought everyone was supposed to be moving to Nevada, Utah, Texas, Arizona, etc.. Seems like you could do pretty well selling your 900K cottage and getting the same house for half that just a state or two away, leaving a big pot of cash to spend on cards or anything else. And what about the "wealth effect" that would have people splurging because their stocks, houses, crypto, cards, etc., have gone through the roof? As with the political scene, there seem to be some disconnects going on that I don't understand.

The reason prices are so high is that more people want to live here than not because Los Angeles is one of the great destination cities of the world. The population is staying in droves. Otherwise, the free market would depress prices.

i don't know what propaganda you are reading about L.A. but clearly whoever is spewing it has an agenda and facts be damned. The City of Los Angeles is over 500 square miles. For comparison, Manhattan is 23 square miles and 13 miles in length, and the state of Rhode Island is 1214 square miles. The skid row homeless encampments that all of the people shit-posting L.A. focus on is a small area about 20 miles from where I live. In other words, nearly two Manhattans away, and with a mountain range between us and them. As for moving to a cheaper state, uhh, no thanks. They do not offer the vibrant lifestyle, magnificent weather, and diversity that we have here. And no beaches inland.

[Hankphenom]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

The reason prices are so high is that more people want to live here than not because Los Angeles is one of the great destination cities of the world. The population is staying in droves. Otherwise, the free market would depress prices. I don't know what propaganda you are reading about L.A. but clearly whoever is spewing it has an agenda and facts be damned. The City of Los Angeles is over 500 square miles. For comparison, Manhattan is 23 square miles and 13 miles in length, and the state of Rhode Island is 1214 square miles. The skid row homeless encampments that all of the people shit-posting L.A. focus on is a small area about 20 miles from where I live. In other words, nearly two Manhattans away, and with a mountain range between us and them. As for moving to a cheaper state, uhh, no thanks. They do not offer the vibrant lifestyle, magnificent weather, and diversity that we have here. And no beaches inland.

Of course, Adam, and thank you. Same with the shit-posting about NYC, D.C., S.F., and anywhere else right-wing nut jobs try to claim are wastelands of crime, poverty, fleeing populations, etc. "Nobody goes there anymore, it's too crowded," in the words of our Shakespeare, Yogi. I wouldn't live where most of those lying clowns do if you paid me.

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by Hankphenom

Of course, Adam, and thank you. Same with the shit-posting about NYC, D.C., S.F., and anywhere else right-wing nut jobs try to claim are wastelands of crime, poverty, fleeing populations, etc. "Nobody goes there anymore, it's too crowded," in the words of our Shakespeare, Yogi. I wouldn't live where most of those lying clowns do if you paid me.

No one has wanted to live in NYC according to the same folks for decades. Yet rents and sale prices never seem to fall. Very odd.

[Hankphenom]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

No one has wanted to live in NYC according to the same folks for decades. Yet rents and sale prices never seem to fall. Very odd.

Same with the supposedly crime-infested ghetto called D.C. But If you want to live anywhere but across the Anacostia River, you better be holding some serious cash.

[butchie_t]

With apologies to President Kennedy.....

"We choose to send Ty Cobb to the Moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard; because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of his energies and skills, because that challenge is one that he is willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one he intend to win, and the others, too."

Butch

[Topnotchsy]

Over the past few years, it seems like the real 'blue chip' players have seen a serious increase in price. I assume some are more localized factors. The movie 42 and the focus on the Negro Leagues likely helped reinforce Jackie Robinson's importance and the way his life transcended sports. (It is possible Jonathan Eig's book "King" added to that as well.) More broadly though, it seems like when money poured into the hobby during the pandemic, the baseball money disproprtionately went to the biggest names. Cobb blew up, but so did Jackie, Ruth, Gehrig etc.

From my perspective it seems like everything has softened in the last year or so (in some cases starting earlier, in others more recently). Coupled with inflation, the impact is reasonably substantial for those focused on a return, especially as other investments like the stock market have done well.

I have wondered (more generally) whether as time goes on, the biggest names will continue to be the stuff of legends, but more and more great players who are not in the tiny 1A group will become less interesting. In part I imagine this might have always been the case, but today it also seems like attention spans are so much shorter, and I wonder which fans are going to take the time to learn about the Al Simmons or Gabby Hartnett of Bill Dickey's of the world. Or learn about the Negro Leagues, or T205's or barnstorming or other areas that have enormous richness, but are not as 'front page.'

[Gorditadogg]

Originally Posted by Topnotchsy

Over the past few years, it seems like the real 'blue chip' players have seen a serious increase in price. I assume some are more localized factors. The movie 42 and the focus on the Negro Leagues likely helped reinforce Jackie Robinson's importance and the way his life transcended sports. (It is possible Jonathan Eig's book "King" added to that as well.) More broadly though, it seems like when money poured into the hobby during the pandemic, the baseball money disproprtionately went to the biggest names. Cobb blew up, but so did Jackie, Ruth, Gehrig etc.



From my perspective it seems like everything has softened in the last year or so (in some cases starting earlier, in others more recently). Coupled with inflation, the impact is reasonably substantial for those focused on a return, especially as other investments like the stock market have done well.



I have wondered (more generally) whether as time goes on, the biggest names will continue to be the stuff of legends, but more and more great players who are not in the tiny 1A group will become less interesting. In part I imagine this might have always been the case, but today it also seems like attention spans are so much shorter, and I wonder which fans are going to take the time to learn about the Al Simmons or Gabby Hartnett of Bill Dickey's of the world. Or learn about the Negro Leagues, or T205's or barnstorming or other areas that have enormous richness, but are not as 'front page.'

Maybe. But I think more likely is that prices will go the other way. Five years ago a Cobb rookie might have cost twice a Ted Williams RC. Now it's 5x. Eventually people may start wondering why, and think that Cobb is over-priced. But who really knows?

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[puckpaul]

Originally Posted by Hankphenom

Of course, Adam, and thank you. Same with the shit-posting about NYC, D.C., S.F., and anywhere else right-wing nut jobs try to claim are wastelands of crime, poverty, fleeing populations, etc. "Nobody goes there anymore, it's too crowded," in the words of our Shakespeare, Yogi. I wouldn't live where most of those lying clowns do if you paid me.

Easy there fella. The left wing nut jobs are certainly doing their best to ruin these places. I live in LA (and in NY still part-time), and both places have serious long-term and short-term issues. MANY wealthy people are leaving both places for low-cost better-managed cities. I dont want to live in those places so I choose this lifestyle. LA is wonderful if you are one of the few who can afford to live here well and can find a good house. It is a Suburban market for the most part, few high rises available. In my area, there are 3 houses available and 100 people looking at any time, so it remains strong for now. New construction if you can find a spot costs $$$ and takes 2-4 years for any kind of quality. The key areas of NYC are not as in demand, but there is little supply of finished apartments ready for a family to move in in desired locations. Both places are massively expensive to live in.

For other right-wing nut jobs, here is a nice Cobb card….

[Hankphenom]

Originally Posted by puckpaul

Easy there fella. The left wing nut jobs are certainly doing their best to ruin these places. I live in LA (and in NY still part-time), and both places have serious long-term and short-term issues. MANY wealthy people are leaving both places for low-cost better-managed cities.

Nice card!
And this forum is not the place for our discussion, so I'll try to end it by saying that I just don't think what you've said is true. I've lived in D.C. most of my life, but also L.A. and S.F., and yes,, they all have problems, but so do small towns, medium-size towns, farm areas, etc. Our homogenized suburbs are probably the best places to live if you don't mind living in the same cheesy Toll Bros. developments with the same strip malls with the same stores every mile or so, etc. Now I live in the lovely, historic, and very liberal small town of Winchester, VA, but it is surrounded by the very right wing Frederick County. No one in either is trying to ruin anything, but to make things better for our kids and grandkids, and I believe that's what people all over the U.S.A. are mostly interested in. I just don't see how you can say that nobody wants to live in the cities but it's unaffordable to live there. That doesn't make sense to me, other than as a phony way to demonize liberal-voting areas. I don't care how you vote or where you live, we're all Americans so let's try to come together and improve things through "truth, justice, and the American way." That's how Superman wanted it, and that's good enough for me. Over and out.

[jcmtiger]

Because I sold all my Cobb postcards to early

[aljurgela]

Has anyone seen one of these trade in the past few years?

[aljurgela]

here is Cobb

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by Hankphenom

let's try to come together and improve things through "truth, justice, and the American way." That's how Superman wanted it, and that's good enough for me.

I love how a thread on Cobb cards leads to Al just casually tossing not one but TWO insane cards on the table. No way to top that except with a T206 Cobb/Cobb signed in Cobb's blood.

Big Al with the

[Hankphenom]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Wow, I love this! Any clue what year? And I wonder what the "Superman magazine" is, a comic or something else? My Superman dime bank is one of my prized possessions.

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

The reason prices are so high is that more people want to live here than not because Los Angeles is one of the great destination cities of the world. The population is staying in droves. Otherwise, the free market would depress prices.

i don't know what propaganda you are reading about L.A. but clearly whoever is spewing it has an agenda and facts be damned. The City of Los Angeles is over 500 square miles. For comparison, Manhattan is 23 square miles and 13 miles in length, and the state of Rhode Island is 1214 square miles. The skid row homeless encampments that all of the people shit-posting L.A. focus on is a small area about 20 miles from where I live. In other words, nearly two Manhattans away, and with a mountain range between us and them. As for moving to a cheaper state, uhh, no thanks. They do not offer the vibrant lifestyle, magnificent weather, and diversity that we have here. And no beaches inland.

What he said. I've been on a nice Cobb run myself. Prices are staggering.

California's been good to me
Hope it don't fall into the sea
Sometimes you got to save yourself
It ain't like anywhere else
It ain't like anywhere else

Sundown, red skies
Nobody's been around
Sundown, blue eyes
I kinda like this party town

California's treated me good
I pray to God that the hills flood
Sometimes you got to trust yourself
It ain't like anywhere else

[Exhibitman]

Rollin' down the Imperial Highway
With a big nasty redhead at my side
Santa Ana winds blowing hot from the north
And we was born to ride

Roll down the window, put down the top
Crank up the Beach Boys, baby
Don't let the music stop
We're gonna ride it till
We just can't ride it no more

From the South Bay to the Valley
From the West Side to the East Side
Everybody's very happy
'Cause the sun is shining all the time
Looks like another perfect day

Look at these women



Ain't nothin' like 'em nowhere.

Century Boulevard
We Love It!
Victory Boulevard
We love it!
Sixth Street
We love it!
We love it!
We Love It!
We Love LA!