Whatever Happened to The Man Beating The Man to be The Man???

[steve B]

There's only one fight I'm waiting for. And oddly I hope it's over quickly.

Almost want it enough to get PPV for the first time ever.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by steve B

There's only one fight I'm waiting for. And oddly I hope it's over quickly.

Almost want it enough to get PPV for the first time ever.

I have one like that also. I hope Mike goes to sleep early to stop a serious humiliating one sided beatdown.

[steve B]

LOL, it's the same one. We just want different outcomes.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by steve B

LOL, it's the same one. We just want different outcomes.

We actually want the same outcome. I am just being realistic if it is actually a real fight.

As a former boxer in my personal experience a young above average boxer will easily beat an old former great boxer. I know I used to love when the old former nationally ranked guys would come to the gym to spar. Just the speed difference made them very easy to hit and avoid their slow punches. Now sadly I am the old guy getting lit up by kids that when I was their age I would have easily beat.

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by bnorth

We actually want the same outcome. I am just being realistic if it is actually a real fight.

As a former boxer in my personal experience a young above average boxer will easily beat an old former great boxer. I know I used to love when the old former nationally ranked guys would come to the gym to spar. Just the speed difference made them very easy to hit and avoid their slow punches. Now sadly I am the old guy getting lit up by kids that when I was their age I would have easily beat.

That's kind of my fear.

Tyson lost badly to a couple gatekeeper type boxers to end his career 20 years ago.

Jake Paul is probably a few rungs of the ladder behind those guys, but Tyson is 20 years older, and last I heard, smoking lots of pot, is NOT a performance enhancer.

Tyson was never known for his stamina, so if this goes rounds, it could get ugly.

I hope Tyson lights him up, and this whole thing is exposed for the spectacle that it is...but I have a feeling I'm going to be disappointed.

A part of me even thinks that Tyson is going to be happy just to get the payday...and if he does see an opening, he's not going to really go after it...and this will end up being just a lame exhibition like Tyson vs. Roy Jones or Floyd Mayweather vs. whoever he's fought in the last whatever, whatever......

....and the fact I'm even talking about this seriously right now, is part of why I haven't really tracked boxing for several years now. It's just depressing.

[gonefishin]

I don't follow boxing very closely, but if you missed the Santillan vs Norman fight last weekend, you missed one heck of a fight. Probably one of the bloodiest fights I've seen since the old Jerry Quarry days. Norman broke Santillan's nose late in the fight and it got bloody, I'm talking all over the ring, both fighters, the referee, etc.

Of course I was cheering for the San Diego fighter Santillan, but he was toast after the broken nose.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Mike Tyson is 57 years old. I don't care what shape he is in for a 57 year old. This is boxing, not golf. That said, I doubt it will be a real fight.

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by bnorth

We actually want the same outcome. I am just being realistic if it is actually a real fight.

As a former boxer in my personal experience a young above average boxer will easily beat an old former great boxer. I know I used to love when the old former nationally ranked guys would come to the gym to spar. Just the speed difference made them very easy to hit and avoid their slow punches. Now sadly I am the old guy getting lit up by kids that when I was their age I would have easily beat.

Ben, who do you think the rules favor?
Eight two minute rounds, 14 oz gloves, headgear optional I think?

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

Ben, who do you think the rules favor?
Eight two minute rounds, 14 oz gloves, headgear optional I think?

They favor the younger guy IMO. 2 minute rounds mean the young guy can push the pace very easily. The faster he makes Mike tired the better. 14 oz gloves are a huge advantage for the young guy. They are going to make Mikes slow punches even easier to block and will slightly reduce the impact. As someone who is very close to the age of Tyson. I am not even close to as strong as I was at the younger age but I was on ALL the super creatine back then. What I am is still considerably stronger than most young guys so I doubt Tyson is the weaker fighter. Once you have been real strong it comes back quick even as an old guy in my experience. Headgear is just horrible and I absolutely hated it.

The big thing is speed. I still see all the openings sparring but I'm just too slow to hit them. Same with blocking punches. I see them coming I just can't get there fast enough to block or move out of the way anymore.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Track and field records by age are a pretty good proxy for the inevitable effects of nature.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ters_athletics