Uncut Proof sheet c. 1913 with Cobb and Joe Jackson in May '24 Hunt Auctions

[brianp-beme]

I don't think anyone really knows much about this, beyond what was written up in the Hunt description. It certainly seems to have been identified to be from around the 1913 date based upon the players and a couple of paper experts, and it appears to my eyes to be colorized photos. They have an unique look.

What a great mini-set this could have been! Besides the obvious superstar appeal of Jackson and Cobb, I love the two action shots (Bender and Marquard), and the Davis with the two cops in the background.


Brian (and here is an even bigger scan to appreciate the look of this sheet even more)

[packs]

The Harry Davis image is cool. I'm guessing he's hoisting a flag maybe?

[JollyElm]

Seems (wherever this comes from) that they misspelled it "HUGIHE" Jennings.

[Hankphenom]

That is nice! Amazing what pops up.

[CardPadre]

Originally Posted by JollyElm

Seems (wherever this comes from) that they misspelled it "HUGIHE" Jennings.

Looks like the pack-issued (lol?) version fixed the spelling.

[cgjackson222]

Originally Posted by CardPadre

Looks like the pack-issued (lol?) version fixed the spelling.

I'd never seen a non-proof version of these cards. I like the look of the non-proof version with Hughie spelled correctly.
To me, this gives slightly more credence to the idea that these are legitimate cards.

The below description says the card "has been nestled for decades in an advanced collection". I wonder if there are any other non-proof versions of the cards out there.
https://bid.hugginsandscott.com/bids...?itemid=223653

[mullinsm]

Maybe the "advanced collector" could provide some details?

[CardPadre]

Originally Posted by mullinsm

Maybe the "advanced collector" could provide some details?

I assume he’s dead. But would be nice to have some more details, for sure.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by brianp-beme

I don't think anyone really knows much about this, beyond what was written up in the Hunt description. It certainly seems to have been identified to be from around the 1913 date based upon the players and a couple of paper experts, and it appears to my eyes to be colorized photos. They have an unique look.

What a great mini-set this could have been! Besides the obvious superstar appeal of Jackson and Cobb, I love the two action shots (Bender and Marquard), and the Davis with the two cops in the background.


Brian (and here is an even bigger scan to appreciate the look of this sheet even more)

I know nothing about it at all. To me it looks like something the modern Helmar company would make.

[CardPadre]

Originally Posted by bnorth

I know nothing about it at all. To me it looks like something the modern Helmar company would make.

Ha ha, don’t give them ideas.

[FrankWakefield]

Just from that image, I don't think it is real. I'm sure they think it is; otherwise, it wouldn't be in their catalog.

[iwantitiwinit]

Originally Posted by FrankWakefield

Just from that image, I don't think it is real. I'm sure they think it is; otherwise, it wouldn't be in their catalog.

My thoughts exactly.

[boneheadandrube]

Originally Posted by iwantitiwinit

My thoughts exactly.

Okay, if its not real where are those images from to create it? Lets go through the process of making this thing.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by boneheadandrube

Okay, if its not real where are those images from to create it? Lets go through the process of making this thing.

Fairly simple to get new old pictures like this. Recently it changed to now being IA. Before it was just called an app. Find a BW photo. Go to an app and colorize it. Very easy to find apps to do this. Then go to one of the apps that make old pictures move. Also very easy to find as they have even been shown on this forum using cards. Then do a still with the player in a new position and colorized.

That is one of many possible ways.

[GasHouseGang]

It's hard to imagine a sheet like that sitting around for 111 years without being discovered. Is there any explanation given about where they found it? Maybe in the files of some defunct printing company? It's also surprising that no other cards from this set have apparently ever surfaced. Amazing discovery.

[cgjackson222]

Originally Posted by GasHouseGang

It's hard to imagine a sheet like that sitting around for 111 years without being discovered. Is there any explanation given about where they found it? Maybe in the files of some defunct printing company? It's also surprising that no other cards from this set have apparently ever surfaced. Amazing discovery.

The only explanation given in the description is “Important discovery originates from a hobbyist who acquired the piece in the Brooklyn area over 40 years ago.”

I want to give the benefit of the doubt, but I am skeptical.

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by GasHouseGang

It's hard to imagine a sheet like that sitting around for 111 years without being discovered. Is there any explanation given about where they found it? Maybe in the files of some defunct printing company? It's also surprising that no other cards from this set have apparently ever surfaced. Amazing discovery.

An attic. In a trunk. It's an attic find no doubt.