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Old 04-15-2024, 02:44 PM
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I'm a big fan of Cecil Travis, but his HoF case is difficult. You would have to include a "cosmic constant" evaluation adjustment factor to address his time and health sacrificed to service of his country. He just didn't get to play enough to support inclusion in the HoF. While dying young may have boosted support among voters for a candidate or two, the voters have avoided players with only half a career, regardless of why they didn't play longer.

There seems to be more support now days (at least in the media) for including players with very high peak performances even if they were not able to extend their career as well as others. Koufax would be an early example of this; Joe Mauer might be an ongoing one. Cecil Travis did not have a peak as "fantastic" as Koufax, or Mauer, while he was a catcher. Travis had one-half of a HoF career, but that is it. While it is reasonable to assume that he would have kept it up if the war had not occurred, it is still just an assumption. Assumptions make tricky selection criteria.
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Ross Barnes.
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Weyhing, Glasscock, Veach, maaaybe Deacon Phillippe.
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Old 04-15-2024, 06:44 PM
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How about Jimmy Dykes? His career numbers aren’t great but he played 22 seasons collected 2200 hits with a 280 lifetime average and a two time World Series champ. Then he won 1,400 games as a manager.

Wilbert Robinson is in with two pennants and less wins.
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Can't lie...bit shocked Bill Dahlen hasn't worked his way into the discussion, yet.

-edit- Nevermind, this thread is about the passed over, not the obvious. Doh.

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Can't lie...bit shocked Bill Dahlen hasn't worked his way into the discussion, yet.

-edit- Nevermind, this thread is about the passed over, not the obvious. Doh.
Yeah I don't disagree on Dahlen but he's definitely one of those guys who comes up a lot.
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George "Piano Legs" Gore scored just over one run in every game he played -- he played in about 1300... Not surprisingly he starred on a lot of winning teams during his 14 yr career.
Also stole a lot of bases although the stats for this are ify...
He's sort of an earlier and lesser version of Sliding Billy Hamilton...
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I think that the only other run per game players (over 1000 games) are Hamilton and Stovey... Barnes is way over a run per game but played just 499 games.

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