Dodgers Management Screws Up Ohtani's 1st Homer in LA

[G1911]

Originally Posted by jingram058

They (plural, people in the Dodgers organization) take the woman behind closed doors, somewhere within Dodger Stadium, separated from her husband, grill her about the ball, offer trinkets in comparison to it's potential worth, threatening to not authenticate the ball if she doesn't cooperate and give it to them for a few more trinkets. Perhaps they weren't going to take her out and shoot her, but other than that, how is this not Nazi Gestapo tactics? If you can offer some clarity, I will change my synonymous take on this.

It is rather frightening how people seem to have forgotten what Nazism in actual reality was and did. Remind me when the Gestapo declined to authenticate memorabilia as one of their trademark cruel tactics? Remind me when they tried to trade game tickets for more valuable goods?

The Gestapo is not any tactic I don’t like. Nazism is not any idea I don’t like. Giving the most wildly extreme hot take to compare what I don’t like to the Nazi’s is stupidity and beyond ignorant.

[jingram058]

Originally Posted by G1911

It is rather frightening how people seem to have forgotten what Nazism in actual reality was and did. Remind me when the Gestapo declined to authenticate memorabilia as one of their trademark cruel tactics? Remind me when they tried to trade game tickets for more valuable goods?

The Gestapo is not any tactic I don’t like. Nazism is not any idea I don’t like. Giving the most wildly extreme hot take to compare what I don’t like to the Nazi’s is stupidity and beyond ignorant.

It's a comparison to the way the Dodgers handled this, which is truly bad as well as stupid. Nothing more.

My father received the Purple Heart in combat in Europe with the 99th Infantry Division from 10 June 1944 (D Day +2) until several months after VE day. From him, I learned a thing or 2 about the Nazis.

If I'm stupid and beyond ignorant, so be it. Oh well. Don't care. You, on the other hand, seem to know everything about everything. I wish you continued success.

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by jingram058

You, on the other hand, seem to know everything about everything. I wish you continued success.

Greg does seem to know a lot about a lot of things but I bet Greg does not know how ebay operates and where their interests lie. Or do you, Greg? If so, can you please give us predictions for calendar years 2025 and 2026? Wanna know if I should short the stock or not.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Lorewalker

Greg does seem to know a lot about a lot of things but I bet Greg does not know how ebay operates and where their interests lie. Or do you, Greg? If so, can you please give us predictions for calendar years 2025 and 2026? Wanna know if I should short the stock or not.

I do not think it takes being knowledgeable about many things to be aware that the Dodgers wanting a home run ball and being a dick about it is not comparable to the Nazi Gestapo. I am an idiot but I am vaguely aware of what the Nazi's actually were.

If this is your guys bar for intelligence, we must have a lot of sub-room temperature IQ's.

I have no idea what this has to do with predicting eBay stock values, which I have never made a single claim on in my life to a single person as far as I can recall.

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by G1911

I do not think it takes being knowledgeable about many things to be aware that the Dodgers wanting a home run ball and being a dick about it is not comparable to the Nazi Gestapo. I am an idiot but I am vaguely aware of what the Nazi's actually were.

If this is your guys bar for intelligence, we must have a lot of sub-room temperature IQ's.

I have no idea what this has to do with predicting eBay stock values, which I have never made a single claim on in my life to a single person as far as I can recall.

I would agree with you (and Peter) that the comparison of the Dodgers' tactics to what historically has been one of the greatest atrocities man has witnessed, namely the Nazi movement, is neither a valid comparison or an appropriate one.

Ah! And the eBay reference was to a post https://www.net54baseball.com/showpo...4&postcount=17 on another thread in which you commented and was an attempt at humor. Note to self...leave the funny stuff to others.

[Keith H. Thompson]

and many of them used to announce "fan ground rules" before the game. This usually included something like "balls hit into the stands are the property of the fan." I was at a game at Yankee Stadium when a player lost his grip on a swing and the bat sailed into the stands. Later, I was downstairs at customer service when the fan brought the bat in and successfully traded it for some quality items. I think the player was David Ortiz. Balls sure to be big ticket items like Alex Rodriguez's 3000 hit are no different. Remember Zach Hample? I think he gave the ball back because of the adverse publicity, but he was remunerated in other ways. The Yankees didn't "demand" it back, they negotiated. But on the ownership side, whenever it looks like a home run might be an item for the stadium showcase, the balls receive a special hologram, and special security guards appear in likely locations to compete for the ball.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by jingram058

It's a comparison to the way the Dodgers handled this, which is truly bad as well as stupid. Nothing more.

My father received the Purple Heart in combat in Europe with the 99th Infantry Division from 10 June 1944 (D Day +2) until several months after VE day. From him, I learned a thing or 2 about the Nazis.

If I'm stupid and beyond ignorant, so be it. Oh well. Don't care. You, on the other hand, seem to know everything about everything. I wish you continued success.

Then you should be fully aware that the Dodgers organization is really not comparable to the Nazi's . There's a reason your father had to go invade Europe and not the Dodgers office. Come on lol

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by G1911

It is rather frightening how people seem to have forgotten what Nazism in actual reality was and did. Remind me when the Gestapo declined to authenticate memorabilia as one of their trademark cruel tactics? Remind me when they tried to trade game tickets for more valuable goods?

The Gestapo is not any tactic I don’t like. Nazism is not any idea I don’t like. Giving the most wildly extreme hot take to compare what I don’t like to the Nazi’s is stupidity and beyond ignorant.

If the couple's story is right, the Dodgers' staff acted inappropriately. That said, the analogy is also inappropriate.

[jingram058]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

If the couple's story is right, the Dodgers' staff acted inappropriately. That said, the analogy is also inappropriate.

In your opinion, and Greg's. Opinion is not fact.

It was a comparison to Nazi tactics. The Nazis got what was coming to them, in the end.

The Dodgers, if the story is true, acted in a manner similar to their tactics. In my stupid, ignorant opinion.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

If the couple's story is right, the Dodgers' staff acted inappropriately. That said, the analogy is also inappropriate.

Fully inappropriate and wrongly. But inappropriate and wrong is not a synonym for Nazism, although the online world apparently loves to believe anything they don't like is or is just like Nazism. There's a lot of things I don't like, but that doesn't mean it's like the Nazi's.

[D. Bergin]

Dodgers were being total dicks to that couple.

I hope my position on the matter will be perceived as accurate, straight to the point, well thought out, and not hyperbolic to the extreme.

[Shoeless Moe]

I think the comparison is fair.

The Nazi were in kahoots with the Japanese. The Dodgers just got in kahoots with the Japanese this off season.

Yoshi "Admiral" Yamamoto is on the hill today against the boys in blue today at Wrigley.

Don't they have an Italian shortstop in A Ball named Ben Mussolini. Once he comes up all bets are off.

The Axis is forming in LA folks.

[Shoeless Moe]

I think the comparison is fair.

The Nazi's were in kahoots with the Japanese. The Dodgers just got in kahoots with the Japanese this off season.

Yoshi "Admiral" Yamamoto is on the hill today against the boys in blue today at Wrigley.

Don't they have an Italian shortstop in A Ball named Ben Mussolini. Once he comes up all bets are off.

The Axis is forming in LA folks.

[ullmandds]

an autod game used ohtani bat is a decent trade?

[jingram058]

If one of you wealthy guys gave me a signed Ohtani card, or ball or whatever, I would sell it as fast as possible. I feel the same way about Tesla. I feel the same way about both. 'Nuf Ced.

[edjs]

Originally Posted by jingram058

If one of you wealthy guys gave me a signed Ohtani card, or ball or whatever, I would sell it as fast as possible. I feel the same way about Tesla. I feel the same way about both. 'Nuf Ced.

I think it would be awesome to have an autographed Tesla card. 👀

[seanofjapan]

This just makes my blood boil.

When a fan catches a ball hit into the stands it is legally their property. These damn players are not poor. If they want something that belongs to somebody else they can bloody well do what everyone else does and offer to pay them the fair market value of the item.

This system where you have a business owned by a consortium of billionaires using their hired muscle to effectively extort a valuable item from a regular person solely for the purpose of giving another billionaire a trophy souvenir is absolutely outrageous.

That ball could have provided that fan with a life altering amount of money. Instead they wanted to rob her of it in order to give the 700 million dollar kid another memento to gather dust on a shelf.

Everything about this just stinks.