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Old 03-27-2024, 05:09 AM
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"I am impressed you can speak of Ohtani with such certainty, when his public exposure has been so shielded"

I agree with this. How anybody can have a meaningful opinion about somebody they have never met, have never heard speak (excepting those who understand Japanese), and whose personal life is essentially unknown, seems odd.

I have no reason to doubt Ohtani's version of events, but I would point out that we have two versions of events: One that existed before the lawyers got involved and one that emerged after the lawyers got involved. The first one implicated Ohtani in a crime that baseball might not be able to ignore. The second one didn't.

It is also plausible that the cooperation of the interpreter in any scenario preferred by the lawyers could easily be purchased for a lot less than $700M. If this was an NBA player accused of an impropriety and a witness changed their story in a way that exonerated the player, would anybody doubt the witness had been "bought off"?
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Old 03-27-2024, 10:34 AM
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I have no reason to doubt Ohtani's version of events, but I would point out that we have two versions of events: One that existed before the lawyers got involved and one that emerged after the lawyers got involved.
That's true, but only one we've heard directly from the horse's mouth.
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Old 03-27-2024, 11:45 AM
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"I am impressed you can speak of Ohtani with such certainty, when his public exposure has been so shielded"

I agree with this. How anybody can have a meaningful opinion about somebody they have never met, have never heard speak (excepting those who understand Japanese), and whose personal life is essentially unknown, seems odd.

I have no reason to doubt Ohtani's version of events, but I would point out that we have two versions of events: One that existed before the lawyers got involved and one that emerged after the lawyers got involved. The first one implicated Ohtani in a crime that baseball might not be able to ignore. The second one didn't.

It is also plausible that the cooperation of the interpreter in any scenario preferred by the lawyers could easily be purchased for a lot less than $700M. If this was an NBA player accused of an impropriety and a witness changed their story in a way that exonerated the player, would anybody doubt the witness had been "bought off"?
I frankly think that the about-face on the story was so abrupt, awkward, and suspicion-inducing, that I cannot imagine that any proper law firm would have advocated for that strategy.
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I frankly think that the about-face on the story was so abrupt, awkward, and suspicion-inducing, that I cannot imagine that any proper law firm would have advocated for that strategy.
One thing is for sure. If Ohtani retires and plays for the Wizards for a year and a half before returning to baseball we know he was guilty.

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One thing is for sure. If Ohtani retires and plays for the Wizards for a year and a half before returning to baseball we know he was guilty.
Ok this is the best reply in this entirely odd chain...you win hands down my friend.
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Ok this is the best reply in this entirely odd chain...you win hands down my friend.
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Old 03-28-2024, 01:24 PM
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Can anyone explain yet how this relates at all to Pete Rose? Ohtani is not even accused, in anybody’s version of events, of betting on any baseball games whatsoever.
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