Hey, pennant guys

[bocca001]

I'm sure that many of us were watching this pennant sell on ebay this week. I was not a bidder. I'm curious how faded it is.

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by bocca001

I'm sure that many of us were watching this pennant sell on ebay this week. I was not a bidder. I'm curious how faded it is.

Well…They’re not called the Cincinnati Oranges.

[Hankphenom]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

Well…They’re not called the Cincinnati Oranges.

Mic drop! Curious if you like this one, Rob. I kind of don't.

[Hankphenom]

Originally Posted by bocca001

I'm sure that many of us were watching this pennant sell on ebay this week. I was not a bidder. I'm curious how faded it is.

What did it go for? Color me mildly suspicious.

[ser1979]

If I'm spending that much on a pennant I want to physically see it, but that's me.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/266718690331

[BigAndy]

Just stumbled across this forum recently in my never ending search for ABA pennants. I’m a big ABA collector. My apologies in advance if this is the wrong thread. I was looking for a for sale/for trade thread specifically for pennants but didn’t see one.

Anyway I’m WTB or WTT for ANY version of Spirits of St. Louis, the 68-69 Denver Rockets team photo pennant, or the late 60s teal colored Kentucky Colonels pennant. If you’ve got other ABA pennants you’re willing to sell/trade not mentioned here, please don’t hesitate to let me know. I’d likely still be interested in buying even if I already own it depending on team and version. Happy collecting!

[mfreema2]

I purchased the 1919 pennant. I went back and forth on authenticity as well. Seeing it in person was not an option so I took a chance. I will say some of the issues I had with it were satisfactorily answered. For example, one issue was no tassels (there is clear evidence of where there were once red tassels on the spine according to the seller). Once in hand I'll closely inspect and seek additional thoughts on it. If it doesn't pass muster, I'll work with the seller and Ebay to return it if needed.

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by mfreema2

I purchased the 1919 pennant. I went back and forth on authenticity as well. Seeing it in person was not an option so I took a chance. I will say some of the issues I had with it were satisfactorily answered. For example, one issue was no tassels (there is clear evidence of where there were once red tassels on the spine according to the seller). Once in hand I'll closely inspect and seek additional thoughts on it. If it doesn't pass muster, I'll work with the seller and Ebay to return it if needed.

I think it will be “good.” Not a red flag for me, but I’ve more often seen red fade to pink rather than orange. The fading is less than ideal but you take what you can get with 100 year old pennants. I hope you can post more pictures (back) when you get it in hand.

[mfreema2]

I appreciate all insights on the pennant - thanks. I will post more/better photos when I get it.

[bocca001]

I thought it was legit too. Here are pics of two others... and a Mitchell and Ness repro.

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by bocca001

I thought it was legit too. Here are pics of two others... and a Mitchell and Ness repro.

Appears to be the same batter as the one reproduced in leather on various team pennants from the 1910s …

[mfreema2]

Very simiar to those - thanks for sharing.

[mfreema2]

Thanks for adding those. I studied all three and compared it to the one selling as I'm sure you and others did. The "National Champions" and batter have more similarities to the 2 originals - the alignment of the feet and bat, the lettering. The "National Champions" is smaller than the other 3 (2 authentic examples plus the M&N repro). The one that just sold is obviously more worn so that makes a one to one comparison a little more difficult.

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by mfreema2

I purchased the 1919 pennant. I went back and forth on authenticity as well. Seeing it in person was not an option so I took a chance. I will say some of the issues I had with it were satisfactorily answered. For example, one issue was no tassels (there is clear evidence of where there were once red tassels on the spine according to the seller). Once in hand I'll closely inspect and seek additional thoughts on it. If it doesn't pass muster, I'll work with the seller and Ebay to return it if needed.

Oh I don't have any doubts it's legit. I was just making a joke about the color. But as Rob said...When it comes to 100 years old pennants, good luck finding a mint one. The seller also had a rare New York Titans pennant that sold pretty well...not baseball "well"...but football "well" anyway.

[Hankphenom]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

Oh I don't have any doubts it's legit. I was just making a joke about the color. But as Rob said...When it comes to 100 years old pennants, good luck finding a mint one. The seller also had a rare New York Titans pennant that sold pretty well...not baseball "well"...but football "well" anyway.

The aging/soiling strikes me as strangely uniform and unlike anything I've seen before, but I will defer to greater expertise.

[mfreema2]

True. There are not a lot of exemplars to compare whith pennants this rare either, especially if it is a possible variation of the 3 or 4 known similar pennants. The seller says he has 350 more pennants inherited from the same relative. It will be interesting to see these other pennants when/if listed.

[bocca001]

Wow! Tell the seller that he/she is welcome to come here and share!

[mfreema2]

Originally Posted by bocca001

Wow! Tell the seller that he/she is welcome to come here and share!

He might want to... it could certainly help him.

[mfreema2]

Just to recap this since there was a lot of interest. The seller messaged me that due to a few concerns brought about by bidders and non-bidders in regard to the pennant's authenticity, including from me, he suggested having an appraisal of the pennant to which I agreed.