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Old 03-23-2024, 10:58 AM
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When it comes to cheap stuff, absolutely.

The trouble is that the features in our little corner of the world that seem anathema to Jingram are inseparable with our collections once the dollar amounts get to a certain size. If I understand Jingram’s situation correctly, you are a veteran, in addition to being a collector. Allow me to genuinely thank you for your service, as I have a deep and abiding appreciation for all those who serve, as many of my relatives have done, including my own father for two tours in Vietnam. I’m guessing this also means that you probably have a military pension, which impacts your financial calculus in ways that are different than the rest of us. And without that kind of financial security, issues like value are difficult to entirely ignore, at least once values reach a certain threshold. For better or worse, values are incredibly high across the board for most everything in the vintage part of the hobby.

To give a couple of obvious personal examples of these principles in play, for my junk wax and modern collections, because that is the era when I grew up collecting, they are absolutely just for fun and largely raw. Values don’t matter, because they’re largely worthless. I probably couldn’t give most of them away.

But when it comes to my extensive collection of high grade Mays items, that’s just not a realistic option. Way too much value at stake to just ignore it altogether.

So I get the nostalgia for simpler times. I just don’t think it is realistic given most of today’s elevated values.
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Old 03-23-2024, 11:08 AM
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I'm not so sure this idyllic state where nobody cared about values ever existed. I remember price guides in the 70s. I think it's inherent in most collectibles.
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Old 03-23-2024, 11:42 AM
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I'm not so sure this idyllic state where nobody cared about values ever existed. I remember price guides in the 70s. I think it's inherent in most collectibles.
Maybe it's more about being a kid again?

Certainly those were carefree days, and for most of us, we weren't particularly careful with our cardboard. Ride your bike down to Safeway, spend a couple of bucks on some wax packs, check to see if you got anything good, stick them in your pocket, and watch your friends play pac-man for a few hours.

At the same time, I still remember values being a thing. The Beckett Price Guide came out around then, and my friends and I spent plenty of time ogling the prices for old cardboard that we could never afford, and yet coveted greatly. Sort of like how auction catalogs function today!
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Old 03-23-2024, 12:57 PM
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There's a ton of us; I never have a problem finding people to swap low grade raw with.

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This may seem a bit OT, but it involves just collecting. Does anybody know anything about blank-backed Goudeys? I just got this from Kit Young Cards for $5.
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I'm not so sure this idyllic state where nobody cared about values ever existed. I remember price guides in the 70s. I think it's inherent in most collectibles.
I was going to say by the first time I went to a card show (back in '86) and saw the asking prices I started caring about what the cards were worth before (and after) I bought them.
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In 1979-81 I was aware of only two comic shops in Toronto (Comics Unlimited on Keewatin Avenue just east of Yonge Street and Queen's Comics & Collectibles at the Beach) and Dreamland Comics on James Street North in Hamilton that carried cards. I later learned that there was also a stamp/coin shop in Hamilton just north of the comic shop that dealt in cards so perhaps there might have been a couple of other such shops in Toronto of which I wasn't aware.

Dedicated card shows didn't make an appearance in Toronto (and perhaps anywhere in Canada) until about 1986 and they were then really low budget affairs held in less than first class halls/meeting rooms. I remember being excited to learn that another (my second) card show was going to take place in far away Niagara Falls in 1987(?). Shortly thereafter newspapers and other media sources started running stories about the prices fetched by the T206 Honus Wagner and 1952 Topps Mickey Mantle cards and card collecting absolutely exploded in popularity with the general public.

Those days were certainly different, albeit not necessarily better. The internet has certainly done wonders to put collectibles and collectors together.

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I collect but have sub collections within the overall collection. I collect cards with cool photography, cards that are funny, error cards.
I also don't mind slabs, I have bought a few but it's more for players I PC like Chris Sabo or Eric Davis or cards that hold a special place for me or invoke a memory like 86 Topps Jim McMahon. The only slab I have that would any real monetary value is a Scottie Pippen RC, that was more of a too good to pass up deal.

Otherwise I collect raw and anything pre 1980 I'm not a stickler for condition.
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Old 03-23-2024, 11:23 AM
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would appear to qualify. For some disturbing reason (to me, the lifelong Tiger fan) he comes over to my house with stacks of modern cheap cards of San Diego players and belabors me with their statistics and virtues. It should be noted, however, that Thaddeus has been to a World Series game and several All-Star games where he gets his cards through promotions at the Fan Fairs. The All-Star game itself is too expensive, but he and his father go to the Rookie Game where a kid can see who is coming.
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When it comes to cheap stuff, absolutely.

The trouble is that the features in our little corner of the world that seem anathema to Jingram are inseparable with our collections once the dollar amounts get to a certain size. If I understand Jingram’s situation correctly, you are a veteran, in addition to being a collector. Allow me to genuinely thank you for your service, as I have a deep and abiding appreciation for all those who serve, as many of my relatives have done, including my own father for two tours in Vietnam. I’m guessing this also means that you probably have a military pension, which impacts your financial calculus in ways that are different than the rest of us. And without that kind of financial security, issues like value are difficult to entirely ignore, at least once values reach a certain threshold. For better or worse, values are incredibly high across the board for most everything in the vintage part of the hobby.

To give a couple of obvious personal examples of these principles in play, for my junk wax and modern collections, because that is the era when I grew up collecting, they are absolutely just for fun and largely raw. Values don’t matter, because they’re largely worthless. I probably couldn’t give most of them away.

But when it comes to my extensive collection of high grade Mays items, that’s just not a realistic option. Way too much value at stake to just ignore it altogether.

So I get the nostalgia for simpler times. I just don’t think it is realistic given most of today’s elevated values.
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