How Slippery is That Slope???

[FrankWakefield]

If Darren was thinking of selling that card, I'd consider buying it, as it is, without any disclosure necessary. And I don't think I'd have been defrauded by that.

I recall a professor in a college electrical engineering class drawing a simple
DC circuit on the blackboard, pointing at a resistor, and asking what the current was going through that resistor. (This is back in the 20th century when handheld calculators were pricey, and the chalk was dusty.) This professor, from my perspective, was always in subtle motion, like a boxer sizing up his opponent. He looked at the circuit, walked back to the resistor, and chalked 300ma beside it. Simultaneously, a geek whiz kid (as I perceived him) announced to the class"312.7 milliamps". The Boxer/Professor kept his gaze on the circuit and said, "Yea, maybe, if it's a perfectly stable and accurate power source, the wiring joints are good, the wire size is proper, and if the resistor is spot on it's value instead of barely being inside it's 10% or 20% tolerance range..." and then he circled his "300ma" and loudly put the chalk in the tray.

I took that as a lesson about not getting tricked into assuming a false precision; the digital calculator was cranking out decimal points that were meaningless in all practicality. Which is what I think card collecting has come to. I want a card I'm not afraid to touch, nor fear someone else touching or holding it for a moment. It's just a baseball card... it's not the bowels of a semiconductor factory, brain surgery, the surface of a mirror in the Webb telescope, nor inside the pristine innards of a modern satellite.

I like that Mays card.

[Peter_Spaeth]

The reality is that tons of cards have been soaked out of scrapbooks. It's well accepted in the hobby. Not to mention the only way these tons of cards were ever gong to be available as singles. Whether it's perfectly consistent or not, I don't think of just soaking in water as either something bad or something that has to be disclosed.

[brianp-beme]

How Slippery is That Slope???


It's like fielding at a 30 degree angle on a green speckled 'milkfall'.


Brian (even Wheaties cards do their best to help make me seem profound)

[ALBB]

looks good
I like it

[Gorditadogg]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

The reality is that tons of cards have been soaked out of scrapbooks. It's well accepted in the hobby. Not to mention the only way these tons of cards were ever gong to be available as singles. Whether it's perfectly consistent or not, I don't think of just soaking in water as either something bad or something that has to be disclosed.

So Darren soaked his card to remove dents, and everybody posting on this thread thinks that is fine. Is it really that big of a jump to use Kurt's magic spray (which is probably 98% water) to accomplish the same thing?


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Originally Posted by Gorditadogg

So Darren soaked his card to remove dents, and everybody posting on this thread thinks that is fine. Is it really that big of a jump to use Kurt's magic spray (which is probably 98% water) to accomplish the same thing?


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I don’t think it’s fine.

Edited to say that I didn’t realize I hadn’t posted in this thread yet. There are so many that it’s hard to keep up.

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[BabyRuth]

Originally Posted by FrankWakefield

If Darren was thinking of selling that card, I'd consider buying it, as it is, without any disclosure necessary. And I don't think I'd have been defrauded by that.

I recall a professor in a college electrical engineering class drawing a simple
DC circuit on the blackboard, pointing at a resistor, and asking what the current was going through that resistor. (This is back in the 20th century when handheld calculators were pricey, and the chalk was dusty.) This professor, from my perspective, was always in subtle motion, like a boxer sizing up his opponent. He looked at the circuit, walked back to the resistor, and chalked 300ma beside it. Simultaneously, a geek whiz kid (as I perceived him) announced to the class"312.7 milliamps". The Boxer/Professor kept his gaze on the circuit and said, "Yea, maybe, if it's a perfectly stable and accurate power source, the wiring joints are good, the wire size is proper, and if the resistor is spot on it's value instead of barely being inside it's 10% or 20% tolerance range..." and then he circled his "300ma" and loudly put the chalk in the tray.

I took that as a lesson about not getting tricked into assuming a false precision; the digital calculator was cranking out decimal points that were meaningless in all practicality. Which is what I think card collecting has come to. I want a card I'm not afraid to touch, nor fear someone else touching or holding it for a moment. It's just a baseball card... it's not the bowels of a semiconductor factory, brain surgery, the surface of a mirror in the Webb telescope, nor inside the pristine innards of a modern satellite.

I like that Mays card.

I love old electrical engineering stories - I remember being in a lecture hall for circuit analysis at UMASS Amherst in 1984. A natural gas smell was present in the air. The professor turned to us and said that he smelled the gas and you are free to leave, but the lecture will continue and the material will not be repeated. No one got up and left and the lecture continued.

[obcbobd]

Originally Posted by FrankWakefield

If Darren was thinking of selling that card, I'd consider buying it, as it is, without any disclosure necessary. And I don't think I'd have been defrauded by that.

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