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Old 03-21-2024, 12:49 PM
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He’s too important to the league .
Probably get the same treatment that big-time gamblers Fred Flintstone and Michael Jordan got - love forever
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Shohei is not an American citizen, he is here on a visa that can get revoked for illegal behavior. Another entanglement to ponder
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Old 03-21-2024, 01:10 PM
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Shohei is not an American citizen, he is here on a visa that can get revoked for illegal behavior. Another entanglement to ponder
He's tall enough to cross the Rio Grande.
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He's tall enough to cross the Rio Grande.
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Old 03-21-2024, 01:13 PM
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I think it's best to realistic. Hardly anyone gets in any kind of legal trouble for placing bets. Pete Rose didn't do any time for placing bets. Neither did any of the Black Sox players after throwing the World Series.

Ohtani is not at risk of having his Visa revoked or going to jail. The worst case scenario for him is a lengthy suspension. Baseball rules dictate that a player caught placing a bet on a game he did not participate in can face a ban of one year, which is also the penalty for placing a bet with an illegal bookmaker (which is what Ohtani would entangled in if he bet). A player caught placing a bet on a game they did participate in can be banned for life.

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He may or may not have engaged in betting on other sports that are not baseball. He is not getting deported or going to jail or getting banned from baseball.
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I hope he is found guilty of gambling so if he gets a slap on the wrist, then Joe Jackson and Pete Rose should be reinstated.

If he is banned from baseball, then he is suffering the same fate of Jackson and Rose.

If he is found not guilty then ok. But......How much will MLB dig into this. I do not think they want anything to happen to their poster boy. Too much dollars for MLB at risk.
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We don’t know yet if he bet on baseball. Of course they said he didn’t. But, their story changed 180 degrees within 24 hours. At first, it was Ohtani paying a debt for a friend, then it changed to the interpreter stole the money from Ohtani (not buying that).
If the interpreter stole money from Ohtani, explain why they were sitting together on the bench for Opening Day yesterday laughing together?
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We don’t know yet if he bet on baseball. Of course they said he didn’t. But, their story changed 180 degrees within 24 hours. At first, it was Ohtani paying a debt for a friend, then it changed to the interpreter stole the money from Ohtani (not buying that).
If the interpreter stole money from Ohtani, explain why they were sitting together on the bench for Opening Day yesterday laughing together?

"Sources close to the gambling operation told ESPN that Bowyer dealt directly with Mizuhara, who placed bets on international soccer matches and other sports -- but not baseball -- starting in 2021."

They are not relying on the interpreter, Ohtani, Ohtani's team, or the MLB for the sports being bet on. Ohtani's teams disparate stories do not have anything to do with this part.

I do not believe for a minute this theft story concocted after previous stories had problems, but there does not appear to be any evidence there were bets on baseball.
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We don’t know yet if he bet on baseball. Of course they said he didn’t. But, their story changed 180 degrees within 24 hours. At first, it was Ohtani paying a debt for a friend, then it changed to the interpreter stole the money from Ohtani (not buying that).
If the interpreter stole money from Ohtani, explain why they were sitting together on the bench for Opening Day yesterday laughing together?
Evidently, this all started coming out during the game. After the game, Mizuhara told the team his original version of what happened. Then, the Dodgers fired him before the second game this morning.

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I hope he is found guilty of gambling so if he gets a slap on the wrist, then Joe Jackson and Pete Rose should be reinstated.

If he is banned from baseball, then he is suffering the same fate of Jackson and Rose.

If he is found not guilty then ok. But......How much will MLB dig into this. I do not think they want anything to happen to their poster boy. Too much dollars for MLB at risk.

At worst, he will suffer the same fate as Rose if he did bet on a game he played in. That's written into the rules. But the penalty for betting on a game you didn't participate in, or placing a bet on something else entirely through an illegal bookmaker, is a one year suspension.

Either way, unless he did the exact same things as Rose and Joe Jackson, his punishment will not be the same. I also don't see it as a pathway for them to re-enter baseball.
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What do you call someone who pretends he's "Shotime" as he unscrupulously transfers the player's money?

Faux-tani.
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How much will MLB dig into this. I do not think they want anything to happen to their poster boy. Too much dollars for MLB at risk.
It doesn't matter what MLB does, we are in an age of internet sleuths, and EVERYTHING will eventually come out, albeit facts will be presented in different ways by different people.
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As long as I'm replying numerous times in a row to my own thread, I would like to mention that I'm a bit bummed nobody has commented on the "card" I posted, or pointed out why I posted it...

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