1966 Topps 6th Series/Semi-Hi's

[Kevvyg1026]

The Bennett miscut with the trademark of the adjacent card near the edge of the pink border could be either 501, O'Donoghue, or 487, Ferrara. Both of those cards are 4x, and both have the trademark in the approximate correct location.

When I adjust the images using my crude abilities, it looks to me as if Ferrara is a better match, but I'm not ready to conclusively state that.

[Cliff Bowman]

I ran across this miscut last night that I didn't know I had because I listed it as a 7 Series rather than a 6 Series, it shows #511 Giants Rookie Stars at the top of a Slit which I believe puts the card at the end of the 4x Aaron row. I am puzzled why this card and Camilo Carreon have lower than normal 4x quantities on eBay but as of now all of the evidence has them at the end of 4x rows.

[deweyinthehall]

Things change quickly, so to sum up, here are the columns, full and partial:
LE
Aaron
Nuxhall
Fox
Moeller
Skinner
Gonzalez
Cubs Rookies

RE:
Hamilton
6th Checklist
7th Checklist
Wood
Giants Rookies
Carreon
Edwards


Oliva
Simmons
Ellsworth
Howard

Roznovsky
Kline
Barber

Buford
Latman
Azcue

Gibbon
Braves Rookies
Coleman

Radatz
Rollins

Yankees Rookies
Bressoud

Blefary
Klippstein

Bunker
Lee

Hannan
Schofield

Jimenez
O'Dohoghue

Richardson
Rodgers

Cannizzaro
Belinsky

Additionally, we have these side-by-sides:
Jimenez/Phillies Team
Klippstein/McAuliffe
Green/Linz
Bennett/Ferrara

These cards are on the top of one slit:
Aaron
Lolich
Wynn
GOnzalez
Giants Rookies

We also have an Aaron on the bottom row

Plus, about a couple dozen or more indeterminates that may prove useful as we get closer and start a process of elimination.

[Cliff Bowman]

This is one of the tentative slits that Kevin and I came up with the LE (header) cards and the RE cards that are on the same row. The other slit has the Aaron row at the top but we need more information to complete it.

1. Gonzalez - Carreon
2. Nuxhall - S Hamilton
3. Fox - Checklist 6
4. Skinner - Wood
5. Aaron - Giants Rookie Stars
6. Moeller - Checklist 7
7. Cubs Rookie Stars - Edwards
8. Gonzalez - Carreon
9. Nuxhall - S Hamilton
10. Fox - Checklist 6
11. Skinner - Wood
12. Aaron - Giants Rookie Stars

[Kevvyg1026]

We also have the possible vertical pairs of Wynn-Ferrara and Phillies team- Buchek, unless you feel it's too early to definitively call those.

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

This is one of the tentative slits that Kevin and I came up with the LE (header) cards and the RE cards that are on the same row. The other slit has the Aaron row at the top but we need more information to complete it.

1. Gonzalez - Carreon
2. Nuxhall - S Hamilton
3. Fox - Checklist 6
4. Skinner - Wood
5. Aaron - Giants Rookie Stars
6. Moeller - Checklist 7
7. Cubs Rookie Stars - Edwards
8. Gonzalez - Carreon
9. Nuxhall - S Hamilton
10. Fox - Checklist 6
11. Skinner - Wood
12. Aaron - Giants Rookie Stars

[deweyinthehall]

My bad - I had recorded the Phillies over Buchek on my spread sheet, but forgot to include it here. So that's 2 complete columns and 13 pieces of others that will somehow come together to form the remaining 9.

IMHO the Wynn Ferrara match seems too tentative at this point.

[Kevvyg1026]

I think the only two possible cards that it could be (Under Wynn) are Podres or Ferrara. The other Yanks/Dodgers have been eliminated (Moeller is in Col 1), Yanks RS doesn't match, Richardson is over Lee, Hamilton is in C11, and Friend has the strange sky (photoshopped?).

Interestingly, I also show Richardson has a red banner above him.

Originally Posted by deweyinthehall

My bad - I had recorded the Phillies over Buchek on my spread sheet, but forgot to include it here. So that's 2 complete columns and 13 pieces of others that will somehow come together to form the remaining 9.

IMHO the Wynn Ferrara match seems too tentative at this point.

[Kevvyg1026]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

I ran across this miscut last night that I didn't know I had because I listed it as a 7 Series rather than a 6 Series, it shows #511 Giants Rookie Stars at the top of a Slit which I believe puts the card at the end of the 4x Aaron row. I am puzzled why this card and Camilo Carreon have lower than normal 4x quantities on eBay but as of now all of the evidence has them at the end of 4x rows.

This should be in the Gonzalez row, which is also at the top of a slit

[deweyinthehall]

Originally Posted by Kevvyg1026

This should be in the Gonzalez row, which is also at the top of a slit

I think we've ID'd 6 cards that sit atop a slit:
Aaron (4x)
Gonzalez (4x)
Wilhelm (4x)
Lolich (hard to say)
Giants Rookies (3x)
Wynn (4x)

Even assuming Lolich to be a 4x - how can the Giants Rookies be a 3x at the top in either the Gonzalez or Aaron rows?

IF it is possible that Giants rookies is a 4x it could make the 7th series checklist a 3x.

[Kevvyg1026]

Using the pattern I mentioned before and this layout, (meaning Aaron and Gonzalez rows will be at top of each slit), I get Lolich in a top row and Wynn under Lee. Yes, sometimes the ebay counts don't always support 3x vs 4x exactly, but we've seen that discrepency before because of card popularity.

1966_series6.png

[Cliff Bowman]

This series has kicked my butt, I need to take a break from it and start it all over. I cannot figure out which are the three 4x cards in the right edge column other than Hamilton, it keeps coming out as the two checklists. It may be true with Checklist 6 with R. Sox but there is no way Checklist 7 is a 4x because it was also printed on the 7th series sheets and it has very low quantities. I haven't seen proof of any row changes, which is very odd for a Topps 77 card series. The only time I have seen that was with the 1964 77 card series. I thought O'Donoghue had a row change above him but I now think that is a Jimenez card with a color shift.