If SGC Becomes No More What Happens To The Pop Report?

[The Detroit Collector]

Originally Posted by Snowman

Perhaps I should be more specific. With the exception of cards that make the short list as registry chase cards, the data does show that a dead-centered SGC card will outsell an off-centered PSA copy in the same grade nearly every time for HOFers and other cards with strong demand. You can certainly find exceptions to this rule, but in general, it's true. It probably doesn't apply to commons though, or to ultra high grade vintage cards as though are mostly registry bids. But if you take a 52 Topps Willie Mays SGC 5 that is perfectly centered and run it next to a PSA 5 with 80/20 centering in the same auction, not only will it outsell the PSA 5, it will often double it.

I think your argument works only for high end cards, but I don't think that's the case of mid to low end HOF cards. But if you have an example of the sales of a mid to low end graded PSA and SGC with difference in centering, I wouldn't mind seeing it.

[Snowman]

Originally Posted by The Detroit Collector

I think your argument works only for high end cards, but I don't think that's the case of mid to low end HOF cards. But if you have an example of the sales of a mid to low end graded PSA and SGC with difference in centering, I wouldn't mind seeing it.

The centering premium has a distribution that applies mostly to mid grade cards. The premiums are usually very low for cards that otherwise look beat up. Maybe 1.2x comps or so for something like a typical PSA 1.5. The premiums start to get big for really nice looking 3s and 4s though. Often double comps, and for certain cards that are extremely difficult to find centered you can even see triple or quadruple comps for these grades. You get some big premiums for PSA 5s as well. But those premiums start to come down for 6s. Those usually get more like 1.5x comps than 2x. And it comes down further for 7s and 8s which get about 1.3x comps or so.

[Gorditadogg]

Originally Posted by Snowman

The centering premium has a distribution that applies mostly to mid grade cards. The premiums are usually very low for cards that otherwise look beat up. Maybe 1.2x comps or so for something like a typical PSA 1.5. The premiums start to get big for really nice looking 3s and 4s though. Often double comps, and for certain cards that are extremely difficult to find centered you can even see triple or quadruple comps for these grades. You get some big premiums for PSA 5s as well. But those premiums start to come down for 6s. Those usually get more like 1.5x comps than 2x. And it comes down further for 7s and 8s which get about 1.3x comps or so.

I think the multiples are probably higher for the top stars. For example, I would happily take all your centered 7 and 8 Mantles at 1.3 VCP.

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[Snowman]

Originally Posted by Gorditadogg

I think the multiples are probably higher for the top stars. For example, I would happily take all your centered 7 and 8 Mantles at 1.3 VCP.

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Ya definitely. Most buyers won't pay big premiums for centered commons but they'll pay up for centered Mantles. That said, if you're patient, you'll usually find someone that will pay a big premium for centered commons as well. Those buyers are out there. There's just not nearly as many of them.