1991 Topps variations

[judsonhamlin]

Anyone have pics of these two variations? I’ve looked at dozens of each but can’t be sure I actually have the two versions of each. Thanks.

[jacksoncoupage]

Originally Posted by judsonhamlin

Anyone have pics of these two variations? I’ve looked at dozens of each but can’t be sure I actually have the two versions of each. Thanks.

What variations?

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by jacksoncoupage

What variations?

He's looking for the Murphy and Olsen variations.

[judsonhamlin]

545 Murphy concave/convex bat
673 Olsen helmet variations

[jacksoncoupage]

Originally Posted by judsonhamlin

545 Murphy concave/convex bat
673 Olsen helmet variations

These two are tricky. The Olson helmet thing may be the result of on an offset or misaligned plate that creates the effect of the A entering the inner border frame. I was always skeptical of it as a true variation but it seemed accepted by everyone else.

To clarify the Murphy, this refers to the piece of burgundy border/frame that touches his bat. The Murphy bat variations should be fairly easy to find, ten+ years ago, I saw both so frequently I stopped pulling them from boxes.

I hope this helps make some sense of these two.

[steve B]

I'll have to scan them sometime, but I haven't really seen the group with a spot in the 40th logo mentioned.

Not uncommon.

[Pat R]

I am documenting some boxes and before I get too far along on it I was looking for opinions on how I am documenting the packs.

Here's an example of one of the packs I documented

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There is no need to document the backs for every pack because every pack in the box has the same pattern

The above pack came from this box and here's the pattern for that box
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If anyone has any suggestions on doing something different let me know.

[Pat R]

I have been alternating opening 4 packs from each box. There are a few patterns in some of the packs from the two different boxes but nothing like when I just opened pack #25 from the cello box right after I had just opened #24 from the wax box.

All of the wax packs have 7 A-C sheet cards in one half and 8 D-F sheet cards in the other half the cello is the reverse of that. Here's the A-C half of each pack in the order that they were in the packs the D-F cards are all different.

Wax.... Cello
265 *A 265 *A
100 *B 100 *B both are the 10 hits variation
315 *C 315 *C
790 *C 244 *A
686 *B 686 *B
96 *A 33 *C
625 *C 700 *C
.>>>>756 *A

Here are the cards. The wax pack cards are on the left or top and the cellos are on the right or bottom


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[Pat R]

Originally Posted by jacksoncoupage

These two are tricky. The Olson helmet thing may be the result of on an offset or misaligned plate that creates the effect of the A entering the inner border frame. I was always skeptical of it as a true variation but it seemed accepted by everyone else.

To clarify the Murphy, this refers to the piece of burgundy border/frame that touches his bat. The Murphy bat variations should be fairly easy to find, ten+ years ago, I saw both so frequently I stopped pulling them from boxes.

I hope this helps make some sense of these two.

Dylan, are you talking about a color shift similar to these Plantier examples where in one the inner frame line extends into the bat and on the other it stops at the bat?

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[steve B]

It's very slight, but those two black layers are different.