New member cuban cards

[rjackson44]

I own some Cuban cards ,,born in cuba.thank you Roland for this masterpiece of a thread gracias octavio

[EddieP]

This is from the Smithsonian online (The online article also provides a link to the Smithsonian’s complete album.)

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/blogs...elo-deportivo/





“In his book A House of Cards: Baseball Card Collecting and Popular Culture, John Bloom states that baseball cards are “all at once, commercial artifacts, forms of visual media, advertising mechanisms, popular art, and objects of exchange.” This is certainly true of the cards in Caramelo Deportivo, a beautiful album of baseball cards featuring 100 players from the 1945–46 Cuban professional winter league. Baseball fans could purchase the album, distributed by the Cuban candy manufacturer Felices, for five cents and collect 99 of the cards to paste into the album. The last card, #73, was issued to collectors only after they had acquired the rest of the set.

Baseball card collecting has long been one of the most popular ways fans have engaged with the sport. Some relish the excitement of seeking out their favorite players, and others enjoy the satisfaction of collecting a complete set. Either way, baseball card collections serve as fan-made archives of baseball history, commemorating players through the eyes of fans rather than solely celebrating their accolades and achievements.

Caramelo Deportivo features some of the most prominent players of the day, including World Series Champion Lou Kline, Negro League star pitcher and Hall of Fame inductee Raymond Brown, and Cuban legend Martín Dihigo. In the pages of the album, the color line that segregated baseball in the United States is blurred; players from Latin American Leagues, the Negro Leagues, and Major League Baseball appear alongside each other, just as they did while playing in the Cuban winter league. For Major League Baseball, this vision of the game was not possible until Jackie Robinson broke the color line in 1947, but the Caramelo Deportivo album reflected the realities of baseball in Cuba and elsewhere in Latin America, where players from different sides of the color line could play together.”

The album also features several Cubans who made a significant impact on baseball in the United States. Orestes “Minnie” Miñoso was a key figure in the generation that bridged baseball from segregation to integration. From 1946 to 1948, he played in the Negro Leagues with the New York Cubans, and in 1949 Miñoso debuted as the first Afro-Latino player in the majors, just as the color line was dissolving. One of the other players spotlighted in the Caramelo Deportivo collection is Negro League star pitcher Luis Tiant Sr., Miñoso’s teammate and father of All-Star Luis Tiant Jr.”

Baseball fans collect as a way to engage with the game and memorialize their favorite players. Collecting is both participatory and creative, in that it allows fans to interact with players and with each other while at the same time generating a tangible archive of the sport.”

[EddieP]

Oye, Roland, gracias por este thread tan interesante!

[GeoPoto]

Raymond E. "Ray" Dandridge. "Hooks". "Squat". Third baseman in baseball's Negro leagues. 1987 inducted into the Baseball Hall of Fame. His career batting average in the Negro leagues was .355 while playing for four teams during 1933-1944. He was a 3-time All-Star. He also played in the Mexican League from 1940-1948. Turned down 1947 invitation from Bill Veeck to play in the Cleveland organization, which might have given him a chance to play in MLB. Viewed as one of best fielding 3B in baseball history. He finished his career playing in the American Association (Triple-A minor league), where he was Rookie of the Year in 1949 and MVP in 1950. His last season as a player was 1955.

[Roland 49]

Eddie, the publication you sent about Smith, from the
Caramelos Felices collection 1845-46, is very good. I didn't know about it, but I don't agree with what it says: that when you completed the 99 cards, they gave you the one from Napoleon Reyes #73. , and that was not the case. Few of the Napoleon Reyes postcards were printed, and it was the Prize card. They were printed with different types of stamps and without a stamp, but the Prize postcard had a quadrangular stamp, with the address of the factory and the signature of the manager, that It was the prize postcard, others with stamps that said: Only for collection without prize, others: only for collection, the stamps in black or dark blue, all of the ones I mentioned were very rare because very few were printed, which is why most of them The albums have 99 cards, I have had around 40 Happy albums in almost 40 years as a collector and of those only 5 have been with the 100 cards, I show from my specialized catalog cards #73 of Napoleón Reyes

[Roland 49]

Ryan, I found the auction after it was over, as you say, it is true that many of the Billiken postcards from the complete set that you sold were mine, the high sale price is incredible, I have had two complete sets, and three sets missing 3 or 4 cards , and many loose ones, those were other times, I sold them very cheap, sometimes for $20 apiece. Here are photos of some of the best ones.

[Roland 49]

Billiken cards 1923, Matanzas and Piratas teams, rare

[Roland 49]

El Baseball en Cuba y América 1908, Christy Mathewson. EL libro Azul 1948-49, Ted Williams

[ElCabron]

Rolando,

Where were all the $20 Billikens when I was coming to visit you???

-Ryan

Originally Posted by Roland 49

Ryan, I found the auction after it was over, as you say, it is true that many of the Billiken postcards from the complete set that you sold were mine, the high sale price is incredible, I have had two complete sets, and three sets missing 3 or 4 cards , and many loose ones, those were other times, I sold them very cheap, sometimes for $20 apiece. Here are photos of some of the best ones.

[Roland 49]

Ryan, on your trips to Cuba you went to my house several times, and you got very good cards, the Tomás Gutiérrez collection and others, and you paid well, but since the 80s, I sold a lot and very cheap, I had no knowledge of prices, postcards Cabañas 1909 for $5, Aguilitas, I sold my friend Rucker a repeated collection of Billiken for around $4,500, etc., I had 3 Méndez repeats in perfect condition and two of them I exchanged for amateur postcards that I didn't have, all due to lack of information, and many Billiken postcards for $20, including the best ones, I had 2 complete Billiken collections and 3 with between 3 and 4 cards missing, those were different times, nowadays almost nothing appears, I am sure that the postcards I sold before I met you were to you and also to the one who sold the Billiken collection on your site, I am sure who he is, he is a great collector from your city, greetings my friend.

[aljurgela]

Originally Posted by Roland 49

Ryan, I found the auction after it was over, as you say, it is true that many of the Billiken postcards from the complete set that you sold were mine, the high sale price is incredible, I have had two complete sets, and three sets missing 3 or 4 cards , and many loose ones, those were other times, I sold them very cheap, sometimes for $20 apiece. Here are photos of some of the best ones.

Incredible el grupo de Billikens que tenias Rolando.... wow....

[aljurgela]

the one on LOTG did well, but I thought that it might do better....

By the way, for those interested I have loaned my Pete Hill (and Josh Gibson) bats to the Baseball Hall of Fame in Cooperstown for a 5 year term for their "Soul of the Game" exhibit....