Jackie Robinson statue stolen

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

Since you are indirectly responding to me, I am replying.

A few cherry-picked, isolated examples of staged hate crimes don't disprove the point that antiblack racism is deeply embedded into US history and culture, including the present. One needn't look further than the attempts of numerous state legislatures to ban the teaching of black history, or even worse, to try and revise it. (Teaching students that black slaves "learned valuable skills" while enslaved is one recent example.) The fact that black people can now play in the MLB, or sit anywhere they want to on a bus does not negate the rise in antiblack racism that we've seen over the last 10 to 15 years. It's almost as if something was going on from 2008 to 2016 that contributed to this, but I can't put my finger on what that was...

For some reason it is always a talking point, but was the US the first, or last, to have slave labor? Why it is so politized in the US. Are the liberals trying to compensate for being against the emancipation proclamation? Other countries dont have the dialog, including India who still basically has a caste system.

[todeen]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

For some reason it is always a talking point, but was the US the first, or last, to have slave labor? Why it is so politized in the US.

I find it interesting racism and slavery are so controversial, too. it is no secret that for hundreds of years after 1492 that Europeans needed to monopolize cheap labor sources to have success in the Americas. Capitalism is built upon the idea of labor conflict. Businesses want to pay the least amount possible. Laborers want the most possible. Since our religious founders and zealots felt bad enslaving white people, there were other plentiful non-white sources available. Once slavery was ended, capitalists continued to create additional sources of cheap labor that were just de facto slavery. In the West and along coats, use of cheap Asian and Mexican laborers proliferates. And just before COVID, lawsuits existed that transportation businesses in CA had so many fees that truckers actually owed their business for moving freight. I've never met someone who claims capitalism is in fact Religious salvation. But the way politicians defend capitalism when these facts are pointed out makes me think the church has to be around somewhere.

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[packs]

It's a talking point because it forces Americans to confront their identity as a country. Can you be the home of the free and the brave if the Civil Rights act needs to be passed to guarantee freedoms? Can your declaration of independence, and a declaration that all men are created equal, reflect reality if a large portion of your population does not have equal rights?

Then there's World Wars 1 and 2, where large portions of the population fought for ideas of freedom and against tyranny only to return to a country where they weren't allowed to drink out of a water fountain, for example.

It gets talked about a lot because for a long time it wasn't talked about at all.

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by packs

It's a talking point because it forces Americans to confront their identity as a country. Can you be the home of the free and the brave if the Civil Rights act needs to be passed to guarantee freedoms? Can your declaration of independence, and a declaration that all men are created equal, reflect reality if a large portion of your population does not have equal rights?

Then there's World Wars 1 and 2, where large portions of the population fought for ideas of freedom and against tyranny only to return to a country where they weren't allowed to drink out of a water fountain, for example.

It gets talked about a lot because for a long time it wasn't talked about at all.

It's also being talked about a lot now because of how much hate and divisiveness has been increasing in recent years. Depending who you talk to, slavery is either a painful legacy that continues to be harmful, or a dredged-up political tool used by the far-left to make white people feel bad.

[packs]

The Civil Rights Act is only 60 years old. That's one generation ago. I personally don't believe that you can resolve something like inequality in a single generation. And I do think it's a topic that we should continue to confront as a country.

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by packs

The Civil Rights Act is only 60 years old. That's one generation ago. I personally don't believe that you can resolve something like inequality in a single generation. And I do think it's a topic that we should continue to confront as a country.

I completely agree with you. I'm quite sure we're in the minority around here, though.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by packs

The Civil Rights Act is only 60 years old. That's one generation ago. I personally don't believe that you can resolve something like inequality in a single generation. And I do think it's a topic that we should continue to confront as a country.

I'm curious if any other country needed an "AcT" to stop slavery. The US of course being one of the newest countries

[packs]

They did. The British passed the Slavery Abolition Act in 1833, for example.

The Civil Rights Act wasn't related to slavery though. It was in response to social inequality. The act prohibits discrimination on the basis of race, color, religion, sex or national origin. Gender-based discrimination is also part of it, not just race.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by packs

The Civil Rights Act is only 60 years old. That's one generation ago. I personally don't believe that you can resolve something like inequality in a single generation. And I do think it's a topic that we should continue to confront as a country.

Actually 60 years is considered 2 to 3 generations. A generation is considered 20-30 years by most.

[packs]

I was thinking of a generation in terms of my own life I guess. My parents are not much older than the act. One generation to me.