2024 Baseball Hall of Fame Tracker

[bcbgcbrcb]

Did Gaylord Perry “cheat”? I believe that he has admitted numerous times to doctoring the ball. He’s still in the HOF though, right? Mauer is really marginal, Helton hit in Colorado (I know, he was just playing the hand that he was dealt, not his choice to have been drafted by the Rockies but career road numbers pale in comparison and double those in place of the high altitude and I don’t think there is any chance that he’s a HOF’er). Those two making the Hall in modern times with the system the way it is as well as historically been, no excuse for Bonds, Clemens and A-Rod to be left out. I think the baseball writers have sent a clear message to us how they feel about the steroid era, now it’s time to move on and recognize the all-time greats alongside their contemporaries and historical counterparts.

[ullmandds]

mauers batting titles as a catcher are what got him in first ballot...imho.

[cgjackson222]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

mauers batting titles as a catcher are what got him in first ballot...imho.

Catchers have won four batting titles in major league history, only three of them in the American League and they're all Joe Mauer.

[packs]

Things are looking pretty good for Buster Posey now.

I think with Helton's induction things are also looking pretty good for Joey Votto and Paul Goldschmidt when it's their time. Probably not first ballots either but both should get the call now.

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by packs

Things are looking pretty good for Buster Posey now.

I think with Helton's induction things are also looking pretty good for Joey Votto and Paul Goldschmidt when it's their time. Probably not first ballots either but both should get the call now.

I'm a big Reds fan, but can't endorse Votto. I've racked my brain to think of a time Votto produced a clutch 2-out hit when the Reds really needed it, and can't come up with a single memory.

His hitting was very good in blowout games and he was adept at drawing lots of walks (but subsequently not scoring). And he was less than mediocre in the few playoff games the Reds managed to blow. I would take Goldschmidt over Votto any day of the week.

[nolemmings]

Originally Posted by cgjackson222

Catchers have won four batting titles in major league history, only three of them in the American League and they're all Joe Mauer.

Actually, you're half right. Catchers have won 6 batting titles, 3 in each league, and Mauer has all of the A.L. crowns. The fourth St. Paul native to make it to Cooperstown, all in my adult lifetime, he's the best athlete I can recall from Minnesota since Dave Winfield, and probably a bit better. Congrats Joe!!!

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

Actually, you're half right. Catchers have won 6 batting titles, 3 in each league, and Mauer has all of the A.L. crowns. The fourth St. Paul native to make it to Cooperstown, all in my adult lifetime, he's the best athlete I can recall from Minnesota since Dave Winfield, and probably a bit better. Congrats Joe!!!

From what I found online, there are 7 batting titles won by catchers. 3 in the AL (all won by Mauer) and 4 in the NL - Buster Posey (2012), Ernie Lombardi (1938, 1942) and Bubbles Hargrave (1926).

[nolemmings]

Originally Posted by jayshum

From what I found online, there are 7 batting titles won by catchers. 3 in the AL (all won by Mauer) and 4 in the NL - Buster Posey (2012), Ernie Lombardi (1938, 1942) and Bubbles Hargrave (1926).

You're right, I forgot about Posey-- I stopped after Joe won his last.

[cgjackson222]

Originally Posted by jayshum

From what I found online, there are 7 batting titles won by catchers. 3 in the AL (all won by Mauer) and 4 in the NL - Buster Posey (2012), Ernie Lombardi (1938, 1942) and Bubbles Hargrave (1926).

Thank you for the correction. I should have said since WWII, not in baseball history. Nice Bubbles Hargrave reference by the way.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by bcbgcbrcb

Did Gaylord Perry “cheat”? I believe that he has admitted numerous times to doctoring the ball. He’s still in the HOF though, right? Mauer is really marginal, Helton hit in Colorado (I know, he was just playing the hand that he was dealt, not his choice to have been drafted by the Rockies but career road numbers pale in comparison and double those in place of the high altitude and I don’t think there is any chance that he’s a HOF’er). Those two making the Hall in modern times with the system the way it is as well as historically been, no excuse for Bonds, Clemens and A-Rod to be left out. I think the baseball writers have sent a clear message to us how they feel about the steroid era, now it’s time to move on and recognize the all-time greats alongside their contemporaries and historical counterparts.

can we elect them and not have to listen to them?