Every slabbed card has a story, don't it?

[Snowman]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

If it's not pack issued, it was an AUTH even before Mastro cut it, would you agree with that or do you have a different take? All I recall about the rumor is it had something to do with Long Island which is also where Sevchuk had his shop.

I think it is highly unlikely that the Gretzky Wagner is an original T206 printed card from 1909-1911. There's just way too much shadiness surrounding the story. It doesn't add up.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Snowman

I think it is highly unlikely that the Gretzky Wagner is an original T206 printed card from 1909-1911. There's just way too much shadiness surrounding the story. It doesn't add up.

How so? What do you think doesn't add up? That it wouldn't have survived in even as nice condition as when Ray sold it to Mastro? That it has a Piedmont back? That there's no provenance pre Ray or a relative acquiring it in Florida?

[Snowman]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

How so? What do you think doesn't add up? That it wouldn't have survived in even as nice condition as when Ray sold it to Mastro? That it has a Piedmont back? That there's no provenance pre Ray or a relative acquiring it in Florida?

It's all of that put together. Plus the fact that his story changed multiple times. And everyone involved just seems shady to begin with. And multiple experienced dealers claiming that they passed on the card when being offered it at the time. The provenance is a big problem to me.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Snowman

It's all of that put together. Plus the fact that his story changed multiple times. And everyone involved just seems shady to begin with. And multiple experienced dealers claiming that they passed on the card when being offered it at the time. The provenance is a big problem to me.

On the other hand, has anyone who has seen the card questioned its authenticity as period?

[Snowman]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

On the other hand, has anyone who has seen the card questioned its authenticity as period?

I forget who it was, but I've read more than one account from dealers who claim they were offered the card before Mastro sold it but they passed on it because they believed it wasn't authentic.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Snowman

I forget who it was, but I've read more than one account from dealers who claim they were offered the card before Mastro sold it but they passed on it because they believed it wasn't authentic.

If you can find that please post.

[jggames]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

If you can find that please post.

Ted was one of them...here's the thread where much of it was discussed:

https://net54baseball.com/showthread.php?p=2284949

Corey has an interesting post later on where he talks about looping the Plank from the batch.