Hey, pennant guys

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by thetahat

I have only seen two other teams (neither of which was Orioles) I bought mine in two batches. One came from a person who had both Angels and LAD, who claimed that he got them from someone who said they hung at the 1969 ASG.The fact that these are trademarked still suggests that more quantities were made. To think that there could be a Pilots somewhere out there!

These are just super-sized versions of existing 30” pennants, right? If so, I think the trademark symbol would have just carried over when they enlarged the silk screen, by whatever process they used. The trademark, in and of itself, doesn’t necessarily lead me to believe they were made in quantities. But you know more than I….

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

These are just super-sized versions of existing 30” pennants, right? If so, I think the trademark symbol would have just carried over when they enlarged the silk screen, by whatever process they used. The trademark, in and of itself, doesn’t necessarily lead me to believe they were made in quantities. But you know more than I….

Correct and yes you may be right. These are enlarged versions of what I think is the underappreciated 1969 ASCO cloth pennant series. Everything is enlarged *except* for the MLB trademark which is the same size as it is on the 30”. These are a softer felt and the graphics are painted but with a rubberized texture so it doesn’t crack. Very strange.

One of the very early posts on this thread shows a beautiful Twins version from this series, might guess there are more of those around since ASCO was in MN.

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Originally Posted by thetahat

Correct and yes you may be right. These are enlarged versions of what I think is the underappreciated 1969 ASCO cloth pennant series. Everything is enlarged *except* for the MLB trademark which is the same size as it is on the 30”. These are a softer felt and the graphics are painted but with a rubberized texture so it doesn’t crack. Very strange.

One of the very early posts on this thread shows a beautiful Twins version from this series, might guess there are more of those around since ASCO was in MN.

Yeah, I can see the rubberized texture if I zoom in.

The fact that the MLB trademark is not super-sized makes me rethink my theory of the maker using 30” silk screens, somehow enlarged. Remember the overhead projectors from elementary and high school? That, or something similar, was the 1969 kind of “technology” I was thinking they might use to draw a new screen.

We may never know….but knowing the obsessive nature of some of us pennant guys, we just might!

[Domer05]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

These are just super-sized versions of existing 30” pennants, right? If so, I think the trademark symbol would have just carried over when they enlarged the silk screen, by whatever process they used. The trademark, in and of itself, doesn’t necessarily lead me to believe they were made in quantities. But you know more than I….

I agree. The maker (ASCO) was probably obligated to use the MLB logo as part of their license with every MLB pennant made--no matter the team, no matter the size. And, if these were made as one-offs in support of an MLB-hosted ASG, I would certainly expect them to have the MLB logo on them.

The commissioner (and his lawyers) were bound to see them. They may even placed the order for them!

These had to be one-offs.

[bocca001]

The Astros was for sale for several years, on ebay, for about $300. The seller then ran it as an auction and it sold for maybe $250? I could be getting those numbers wrong. I guess the question is whether the one Greg eventually got is the same one that sold on ebay years ago, or another.

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by bocca001

The Astros was for sale for several years, on ebay, for about $300. The seller then ran it as an auction and it sold for maybe $250? I could be getting those numbers wrong. I guess the question is whether the one Greg eventually got is the same one that sold on ebay years ago, or another.

Let’s beat this dead horse a little more, shall we?

This thing sold probably 25 years ago on ebay. It went for decent money, but nothing crazy. I still kick myself for not getting it. Based on the seller’s description, it’s not as big as the ones Greg has. It’s also polychromatic. Same series? Something completely different? What do you guys think?

[MK]

I am elated to have finally acquired this scarce Cubs pennant. I passed on one about five years ago and this is the first one I have seen since. It’s not even in Egner’s Guide. Kind of glad I waited now, as this one is in slightly better condition and was less than half the price of the one I passed on 5 years ago. This is of course the odd “Ebbets Field” version in which someone decided to use the Dodgers home field and pass it off as Wrigley. While numerous Dodger pennants used this graphic, this particular Cubs version seldom surfaces. Maybe it was a limited production, or Cub fans were insulted by the image. Either way, I’m happy to add it to my collection.

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by MK

I am elated to have finally acquired this scarce Cubs pennant. I passed on one about five years ago and this is the first one I have seen since. It’s not even in Egner’s Guide. Kind of glad I waited now, as this one is in slightly better condition and was less than half the price of the one I passed on 5 years ago. This is of course the odd “Ebbets Field” version in which someone decided to use the Dodgers home field and pass it off as Wrigley. While numerous Dodger pennants used this graphic, this particular Cubs version seldom surfaces. Maybe it was a limited production, or Cub fans were insulted by the image. Either way, I’m happy to add it to my collection.

And I’m happy for you, Mike!

Funny how you can often get a better deal after you come in second the first time around. The only problem is that you never know if you’ll see some rare pennants ever again. I can think of at least three Giants pennants I’ve only seen ONCE.

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In case anyone is wondering, these are the three:

[MK]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

And I’m happy for you, Mike!

Funny how you can often get a better deal after you come in second the first time around. The only problem is that you never know if you’ll see some rare pennants ever again. I can think of at least three Giants pennants I’ve only seen ONCE.

Thanks Rob. I usually end up paying more the second time around but this was a happy ending.

[UKCardGuy]

Originally Posted by MK

I am elated to have finally acquired this scarce Cubs pennant. I passed on one about five years ago and this is the first one I have seen since. It’s not even in Egner’s Guide. Kind of glad I waited now, as this one is in slightly better condition and was less than half the price of the one I passed on 5 years ago. This is of course the odd “Ebbets Field” version in which someone decided to use the Dodgers home field and pass it off as Wrigley. While numerous Dodger pennants used this graphic, this particular Cubs version seldom surfaces. Maybe it was a limited production, or Cub fans were insulted by the image. Either way, I’m happy to add it to my collection.

That's a fantastic pennant. Congrats. (one more ebay search just added)

[Duluth Eskimo]

Originally Posted by MK

I am elated to have finally acquired this scarce Cubs pennant. I passed on one about five years ago and this is the first one I have seen since. It’s not even in Egner’s Guide. Kind of glad I waited now, as this one is in slightly better condition and was less than half the price of the one I passed on 5 years ago. This is of course the odd “Ebbets Field” version in which someone decided to use the Dodgers home field and pass it off as Wrigley. While numerous Dodger pennants used this graphic, this particular Cubs version seldom surfaces. Maybe it was a limited production, or Cub fans were insulted by the image. Either way, I’m happy to add it to my collection.

Nice pennant and super tough.

[MK]

Originally Posted by Duluth Eskimo

Nice pennant and super tough.

Thanks. If another good one shows up in the next 5 years I’ll be surprised.

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

Let’s beat this dead horse a little more, shall we?

This thing sold probably 25 years ago on ebay. It went for decent money, but nothing crazy. I still kick myself for not getting it. Based on the seller’s description, it’s not as big as the ones Greg has. It’s also polychromatic. Same series? Something completely different? What do you guys think?

Same series! Offhand I believe the Giants and Twins are the only ones in that series that is one-color print, though the Twins were made in blue and red cloth. My big ones are 30” by 68”.

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by bocca001

The Astros was for sale for several years, on ebay, for about $300. The seller then ran it as an auction and it sold for maybe $250? I could be getting those numbers wrong. I guess the question is whether the one Greg eventually got is the same one that sold on ebay years ago, or another.

Yes that was me. I got 4 of my 6 from him for an even grand. His had grommets like the Expos above.

[thetahat]

Post #107 on this thread presented this beautiful Twins example …

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Originally Posted by thetahat

Post #107 on this thread presented this beautiful Twins example …

I’d love to know if the Twins is 56” or 68.” Seems weird that the Giants would be a foot shorter. Maybe the seller screwed up the description?

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

I’d love to know if the Twins is 56” or 68.” Seems weird that the Giants would be a foot shorter. Maybe the seller screwed up the description?

Based on the regular sized Twins, the big one looks like it is 68”. And I do think the Giants might be bigger than advertised.

ASCO was a legit pennant company. Those 19” player picture pennants are awesome and highly mysterious. Are there any known checklists? Years of production? A Mickey Mantle sold for near $2,000 awhile ago. Might there be a Willie Mays?