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Old 01-17-2024, 12:35 PM
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Not my thing, but I think it's a proprietary solution he's peddling, and not just water that the cards soak in. That said, I bet SGC loves this video getting out there.
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Not my thing, but I think it's a proprietary solution he's peddling, and not just water that the cards soak in. That said, I bet SGC loves this video getting out there.
That was my thought, if it's water, no problem. If not, then it could be...

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Not my thing, but I think it's a proprietary solution he's peddling, and not just water that the cards soak in. That said, I bet SGC loves this video getting out there.
It ain't water.
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Are glues that were used during that era not water soluble glues, or at least some of them?
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Are glues that were used during that era not water soluble glues, or at least some of them?
definitely a mix of water soluble and not.
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I'm not a graded card guy (I'm too cheap), but I did find this interesting.

Title of video: "Honus Wagner 1911 - Restoration and Re-Grade"

Grading terms and condition on SGC website: "7. Customer agrees not to knowingly submit cards to SGC that bear evidence of trimming, recoloring, restoration or any other form of tampering, or are of questionable authenticity, as determined in the sole judgment of SGC (“Altered Cards”)."

It seems that Kurt is in violation of SGC Terms and Conditions, and actually made it very public

I'm not debating what folks do with their cards. I just found the wording interesting.
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I'm not a graded card guy (I'm too cheap), but I did find this interesting.

Title of video: "Honus Wagner 1911 - Restoration and Re-Grade"

Grading terms and condition on SGC website: "7. Customer agrees not to knowingly submit cards to SGC that bear evidence of trimming, recoloring, restoration or any other form of tampering, or are of questionable authenticity, as determined in the sole judgment of SGC (“Altered Cards”)."

It seems that Kurt is in violation of SGC Terms and Conditions, and actually made it very public

I'm not debating what folks do with their cards. I just found the wording interesting.
This is not restoration. It is removal. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with what Kurt did to this card. All he did was effectively wipe off some boogers that the original submitter should have removed prior to sending it to PSA.

You could send this video to SGC and they arent' going to care one bit.
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This is not restoration. It is removal. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with what Kurt did to this card. All he did was effectively wipe off some boogers that the original submitter should have removed prior to sending it to PSA.

You could send this video to SGC and they arent' going to care one bit.

He did just a tad more than wipe off boogers with the ‘86 Fleer Jordan.

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...there is absolutely nothing wrong with what Kurt did to this card...
It's not surprising to see you write this.
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You could send this video to SGC and they arent' going to care one bit.
Yep. They already know about it. I'd be floored if they somehow didn't. Their answer is going to be if there is not evidence of alteration when inspected for grading - then a card is not altered.

As was also pointed out, SGC and others have in the fine print that you can't "knowingly" submit altered cards, but clearly it's never been a policy to police this. How would that remotely be in their interests? On the assumption that many people unknowingly submit altered cards, they have a wide range of services to accommodate that, which includes still getting your card slabbed with a nice explanation of what you didn't know (wink wink) when you subbed it on the flip.
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This is not restoration. It is removal. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with what Kurt did to this card. All he did was effectively wipe off some boogers that the original submitter should have removed prior to sending it to PSA.

You could send this video to SGC and they arent' going to care one bit.
Go look at his videos.
Removing gunk is ok, not sure just what his formula is, but I'd be concerned about how it affects things long term.

But the fixing creases, corner dings edge dents... no, that's not ok.
One pic on his site shows a 74 Topps with at least one entirely rebuilt corner.
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