seeking opinions on '56 Topps Clemente

[vthobby]

Well said on both accounts.

That Clemente like I said has a good chance. It looks like an early sig and a kid with a card and a ballpoint is not going to get the cleanest sig if he met Roberto at the park or wherever.

I really like the Clemente if you ever decide to move it.

Thanks!

[7nohitter]

Is Campyfan accepting a return on the ball?

[rand1com]

I don't like either one.

[itjclarke]

Originally Posted by vthobby

Well said on both accounts.

That Clemente like I said has a good chance. It looks like an early sig and a kid with a card and a ballpoint is not going to get the cleanest sig if he met Roberto at the park or wherever.

I really like the Clemente if you ever decide to move it.

Thanks!

Thanks for the opinions so far. Your mentioned scenario was my precise hope on the Clemente. Kid with card and pen at the ballpark, and he’s trying to sign it in hand, and basically whiffed on most of his opening R. The tail end of the sig looks like many of the examples I see out there. I may get it graded someday, then would consider moving it.

Re- Campy, I hadn’t imagined it as a post accident sig, as those were really choppy. I figured/hoped it was also maybe a rush job at the ballpark. Campyfan and I had a pre-sale agreement if it doesn’t pass TPG. I felt good dealing with him, and I decided to roll the dice a bit. So far seems opinions on it are all negative though.

[rand1com]

Zero chance the Campy is pre accident.

Good luck on the Clemente but I have serious doubts it could be authenticated by a third party.

[itjclarke]

Originally Posted by rand1com

Zero chance the Campy is pre accident.

Good luck on the Clemente but I have serious doubts it could be authenticated by a third party.

Thanks for the input. I'm not at all versed in the process and don't have a clear idea as to what will or won't pass and why. I've only submitted 2x items to TPA, one a Duke Snider rookie, which passed and one a very authentic in-person Waukesha Sport Cards' Hank Aaron rookie, which did not. The latter was frustrating and turned me off to the process. I have a lot of cards signed in person during childhood, which I'll never consider having authenticated. However on one like the Clemente, I feel like it's a must if I eventually sell.

[Hxcmilkshake]

Originally Posted by itjclarke

Thanks for the input. I'm not at all versed in the process and don't have a clear idea as to what will or won't pass and why. I've only submitted 2x items to TPA, one a Duke Snider rookie, which passed and one a very authentic in-person Waukesha Sport Cards' Hank Aaron rookie, which did not. The latter was frustrating and turned me off to the process. I have a lot of cards signed in person during childhood, which I'll never consider having authenticated. However on one like the Clemente, I feel like it's a must if I eventually sell.

Eventually, they'll all be sold...

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[itjclarke]

Originally Posted by Hxcmilkshake

Eventually, they'll all be sold...

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Or none will. At least in my lifetime. May grade and sell Clemente only because it's a dupe.

[rand1com]

Originally Posted by itjclarke

Thanks for the input. I'm not at all versed in the process and don't have a clear idea as to what will or won't pass and why. I've only submitted 2x items to TPA, one a Duke Snider rookie, which passed and one a very authentic in-person Waukesha Sport Cards' Hank Aaron rookie, which did not. The latter was frustrating and turned me off to the process. I have a lot of cards signed in person during childhood, which I'll never consider having authenticated. However on one like the Clemente, I feel like it's a must if I eventually sell.

Why don’t you post the in person Aaron that was rejected on here for us to see?

[itjclarke]

Originally Posted by rand1com

Why don’t you post the in person Aaron that was rejected on here for us to see?

This was from a while back, maybe 2015 or 16. It's part of my collection, so doesn't matter much whether authenticated. I could've paid for JSA to authenticate on site, but I didn't want their sticker on the back.

ADDING- when I pushed back on PSA and showed them the Waukesha receipts, etc, they gave me a voucher to have the card re-assessed. At the time, I think it only cost $29. I never used it though.

1954 Topps Hank Aaron signed Waukeshau.jpg

[vthobby]

Originally Posted by itjclarke

This was from a while back, maybe 2015 or 16. It's part of my collection, so doesn't matter much whether authenticated. I could've paid for JSA to authenticate on site, but I didn't want their sticker on the back.

ADDING- when I pushed back on PSA and showed them the Waukesha receipts, etc, they gave me a voucher to have the card re-assessed. At the time, I think it only cost $29. I never used it though.

Attachment 605338

That is a very nice card. Let me know if you ever sell the Clemente! Or the Aaron for that matter. Thanks!

[rand1com]

Originally Posted by itjclarke

This was from a while back, maybe 2015 or 16. It's part of my collection, so doesn't matter much whether authenticated. I could've paid for JSA to authenticate on site, but I didn't want their sticker on the back.

ADDING- when I pushed back on PSA and showed them the Waukesha receipts, etc, they gave me a voucher to have the card re-assessed. At the time, I think it only cost $29. I never used it though.

Attachment 605338

Very nice card.

The autograph looks OK to me but the "H" is definitely strange with the tail when forming the "H". I have never seen one like that.

You mentioned you did not want a JSA sticker on the card. I don't blame you for that but you can get a pictured certificate for a little more money and they will put the sticker on the LOA if you specify that when you submit the card.

Getting it authenticated makes sense for value purposes whether you ever sell it or not. It will protect your heirs if they decide to sell it some day.

I think it will pass.

Beckett is another option if you want it encapsulated since JSA does not do that.

The authentication fee for Aaron is reasonable.

Thanks for showing the autograph in question.

[itjclarke]

Originally Posted by rand1com

Good luck on the Clemente but I have serious doubts it could be authenticated by a third party.

Well, I'm happy to learn that my '56 Clemente did pass PSA's auto authentication. SCP offered to have it checked for me, while grading some other items I consigned to them. Will be psyched to get it.

[rand1com]

Congrats on the autograph. It was so messy I just figured they would either fail it or pass on giving an opinion at all.

Getting it authenticated makes it worth a LOT more if you ever decide to sell.

[chaddurbin]

Once again billycox is correct. Why hasn't one of the big TPA try to hire him for vintage already? He's prolly forgotten more about autographs then what some of these tpa know!

[Brick442]

The Campy ball looks like it could be a Roy II special (not Roy Jr. as he points out). He signed for his father sometimes.

Here is an example of an Elder PC signed by Roy II.