Dating of N184 Kimball Champions

[G1911]

Putting it together from all my notes for the similar champion athlete sets:

N28 - Late 1888, possibly into early 1889.
N29 - The store poster is August of 1889
N43 - Similar, late 1889
N162 - probably late 1888 into early 1889 or Q1-Q2 1889 alone. Album available and actively advertised until at least August of 1889, probably still after that. Possibly 2 issuances.
N184 - probably late 1888 into 1889; 2 issuances at some remove? Album available until Q1 1890.

It looks like all of the multi-sport champions sets are significantly later than they are traditionally claimed.

Sport and non-sport, there are a lot less 1887 sets than usually claimed.

[Leon]

I have always thought these sets were issued in the '88-'89 timeframie.

Originally Posted by G1911

Putting it together from all my notes for the similar champion athlete sets:

N28 - Late 1888, possibly into early 1889.
N29 - The store poster is August of 1889
N43 - Similar, late 1889
N162 - probably late 1888 into early 1889 or Q1-Q2 1889 alone. Album available and actively advertised until at least August of 1889, probably still after that. Possibly 2 issuances.
N184 - probably late 1888 into 1889; 2 issuances at some remove? Album available until Q1 1890.

It looks like all of the multi-sport champions sets are significantly later than they are traditionally claimed.

Sport and non-sport, there are a lot less 1887 sets than usually claimed.

[Jay Wolt]

I always though they were issued in 1887, since that was on the SGC flip

[Directly]

PSA also Labels as ---1887----

[G1911]

Primary source documents > what SGC and PSA claim without evidence.

I’ve never really understood why fiction is so popular in the hobby.

[brianp-beme]

My type card of N184, Hardie Henderson, is a physical manifestation of Henderson's life being cut tragically short at the age of 40.


Brian

[1880nonsports]

I know Joe G. did a pretty exhaustive study on the dates of many 1880-1890 sets. Like the spaghetti sauce it's all HERE somewhere or perhaps in the nonsport site archives. He's a top drawer researcher so I would listen to much of what he says.
While I managed to finish a master set - I framed the album with it's parts to be able to enjoy the players and the colorful backgrounds more easily including a card (front and back), coupon, and binding string. Sorry for the mediocre pix....