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Old 12-24-2023, 11:14 AM
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Either we all have bigger complaints, or what you’ve always suspected is true.
I guess. Shill bidding once was the hottest topic in the hobby. And to me, revulsion to undisclosed card doctoring is something deeply engrained from day one.
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Old 12-24-2023, 12:52 PM
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For me, it's the price of unopened current product. Hobby boxes that used to be $80-100 with 24+ does are now $300 with 8 packs. With less value in the packs.
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Old 12-24-2023, 01:06 PM
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I guess. Shill bidding once was the hottest topic in the hobby. And to me, revulsion to undisclosed card doctoring is something deeply engrained from day one.
I think a lot of it has to do with most are just tired of listening/reading all the complaining. Then the big unpopular truth we see ALL the time. The huge eBay seller(s) that shills almost every one of their listings is a friend. So he is considered honest. Then change out shill bidder with card doctor and it is exactly the same. It is a close hobby friend so they are honest as the day is long. I have never understood this but I see it all the time.
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I guess. Shill bidding once was the hottest topic in the hobby. And to me, revulsion to undisclosed card doctoring is something deeply engrained from day one.
I certainly don’t want to condone it, but I think it’s just to a point that it seems a hopeless business.

It seems like it’s everywhere. The ability to police it is limited to nonexistent. And for poor slobs like us, if our only recourse is to post about it here, it doesn’t seem to accomplish much.

I suppose the other approach is to stick to beaters with big borders, because the odds are better that they haven’t been doctored. While that’s an attractive option, it doesn’t seem to move the needle with the rest of our world.
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My complaint is that the major auction houses don’t have enough auctions. I recall at least five or six days last year when I awoke to find I had nothing to bid on. Damn inconsiderate of those folks. Hopefully, they can correct that in 2024.
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My complaint is that the major auction houses don’t have enough auctions. I recall at least five or six days last year when I awoke to find I had nothing to bid on. Damn inconsiderate of those folks. Hopefully, they can correct that in 2024.
Good one, Jay!!
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