Happy Festivus! Airing of Grievances 2023 Edition

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by jingram058 "I'm sick to death of the stupid prices of cards."

I'm sick to death of the prices of stupid cards.

[brianp-beme]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Originally Posted by jingram058 "I'm sick to death of the stupid prices of cards."

I'm sick to death of the prices of stupid cards.

I'm death to sick prices of cards of the stupid.


Brian

[Peter_Spaeth]

One mention (mine) of card doctoring and none of shill bidding. Did the hobby get cleaned up and I missed it?

[raulus]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

One mention (mine) of card doctoring and none of shill bidding. Did the hobby get cleaned up and I missed it?

Either we all have bigger complaints, or what you’ve always suspected is true.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by raulus

Either we all have bigger complaints, or what you’ve always suspected is true.

I guess. Shill bidding once was the hottest topic in the hobby. And to me, revulsion to undisclosed card doctoring is something deeply engrained from day one.

[Tabe]

For me, it's the price of unopened current product. Hobby boxes that used to be $80-100 with 24+ does are now $300 with 8 packs. With less value in the packs.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I guess. Shill bidding once was the hottest topic in the hobby. And to me, revulsion to undisclosed card doctoring is something deeply engrained from day one.

I think a lot of it has to do with most are just tired of listening/reading all the complaining. Then the big unpopular truth we see ALL the time. The huge eBay seller(s) that shills almost every one of their listings is a friend. So he is considered honest. Then change out shill bidder with card doctor and it is exactly the same. It is a close hobby friend so they are honest as the day is long. I have never understood this but I see it all the time.

[raulus]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I guess. Shill bidding once was the hottest topic in the hobby. And to me, revulsion to undisclosed card doctoring is something deeply engrained from day one.

I certainly don’t want to condone it, but I think it’s just to a point that it seems a hopeless business.

It seems like it’s everywhere. The ability to police it is limited to nonexistent. And for poor slobs like us, if our only recourse is to post about it here, it doesn’t seem to accomplish much.

I suppose the other approach is to stick to beaters with big borders, because the odds are better that they haven’t been doctored. While that’s an attractive option, it doesn’t seem to move the needle with the rest of our world.

[oldjudge]

My complaint is that the major auction houses don’t have enough auctions. I recall at least five or six days last year when I awoke to find I had nothing to bid on. Damn inconsiderate of those folks. Hopefully, they can correct that in 2024.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by raulus

Either we all have bigger complaints, or what you’ve always suspected is true.

LOL (Room full of people who care)
Yeap, the doctoring is all cleaned up. Put a bandage on it, take 2 aspirin, and see me in 3 weeks.
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[Eric72]

“Make me an offer.”

Okay, I offer to consider buying your card if you put a price on it.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Eric72

“Make me an offer.”

Okay, I offer to consider buying your card if you put a price on it.

I have never understood why that bothers people. If you know what you want to pay, make an offer, no?

[RichMcGillicuddy]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

One mention (mine) of card doctoring and none of shill bidding. Did the hobby get cleaned up and I missed it?

Those topics make people question "Why?" they collect, seem to be worse or more visible than ever, and create rabbit holes of how you combat them (there is no easy way)...