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Old 12-23-2023, 01:40 PM
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The math on Jesse Orosco says that he pitched in more games than anyone else. That's enough to talk about on a HOF plaque right there.


Was Scott Rolen really better at baseball than Munson or Mattingly? Is Rolen even famous? The sky appears to be blue from our vantage point. It's not actually blue.
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If he was indeed HOF worthy, he'd be in by now, over 40 years since his death. Being a Yankee simply doesn't make a ballplayer a HOFer.
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Given how brutal being a catcher is on the body, I think that catchers should not be expected to have the same numbers as other position players to make the HOF.

When compared with other catchers, Munson is about the 12th best catcher ever not including Negro Leagues, and the top 11 are all in the HOF except Mauer.

Add in the fact that Munson played really well in the postseason, batting .373 in 3 World Series, was a strong fielder, and a leader in the clubhouse of a winning squad, and I think he is a good candidate.

I think there are a bunch of borderline HOF catchers--Munson, Posey, Molina, Schang, Tenace, Freehan and Posada, to name a few. I think Munson is as good a candidate as any.

I will be a little annoyed if Molina or Posey make it in before Munson.

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Given how brutal being a catcher is on the body, I think that catchers should not be expected to have the same numbers as other position players to make the HOF.

When compared with other catchers, Munson is about the 12th best catcher ever not including Negro Leagues, and the top 11 are all in the HOF except Mauer.

Add in the fact that Munson played really well in the postseason, batting .373 in 3 World Series, was a strong fielder, and a leader in the clubhouse of a winning squad, and I think he is a good candidate.

I think there are a bunch of borderline HOF catchers--Munson, Posey, Molina, Schang, Tenace, Freehan and Posada, to name a few. I think Munson is as good a candidate as any.

I will be a little annoyed if Molina or Posey make it in before Munson.
When, not if, IMO. Right or wrong, seems that's how this will unfold.
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Munson had 6 HR his last full season and 3 his last roughly 2/3. Not a great note suggesting he had a lot of production left in him when he passed.
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So how much longer do you think Thurman Munson career would have been in MLB had he not been tragically killed in the Aug 1979 plane crash? Also, do you think Munson would have possibly been traded to another team if he were not killed?
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So how much longer do you think Thurman Munson career would have been in MLB had he not been tragically killed in the Aug 1979 plane crash? Also, do you think Munson would have possibly been traded to another team if he were not killed?
I believe there were rumors that he liked the idea of Cleveland? Something to do with his family.

I think he would've had at least 3 more seasons in the bigs.
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Given how brutal being a catcher is on the body, I think that catchers should not be expected to have the same numbers as other position players to make the HOF.

When compared with other catchers, Munson is about the 12th best catcher ever not including Negro Leagues, and the top 11 are all in the HOF except Mauer.

Add in the fact that Munson played really well in the postseason, batting .373 in 3 World Series, was a strong fielder, and a leader in the clubhouse of a winning squad, and I think he is a good candidate.

I think there are a bunch of borderline HOF catchers--Munson, Posey, Molina, Schang, Tenace, Freehan and Posada, to name a few. I think Munson is as good a candidate as any.

I will be a little annoyed if Molina or Posey make it in before Munson.
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Physically and mentally demanding - a leader and a coach On the field , Involved with every single pitch of the game and he’s The only player that has the umpires ear - pitchers important but a catcher can’t leave the sixth or seventh inning because he’s tired and a good catcher plays most of the games - Should be more catchers in the Hall of Fame
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