Tommy De Vito, Mark Bavaro, and Other Italian American Tough Guys

[cgjackson222]

Originally Posted by bk400

@DBergin https://nypost.com/2023/12/19/sports...r-fee-dispute/

Looks like Tommy De Vito indeed did the stand up thing pretty quickly. No doubt he's from Jersey -- you can't have the local pizza guys badmouth you if you want to be part of the brotherhood. Not sure if relevant, but Eli Manning, Phil Simms, Harry Carson, Joe Morris, Leonard Marshall, and George Martin are among the classy and beloved ring-winning Giants who all still live in Northern Jersey.

On Giants offensive line, I'm not even sure they had a great offensive line when Eli Manning and Phil Simms were winning rings. In many ways, the Giants may have been spoiled by winning reasonably regularly in the past without a consistent Pro Bowler anchoring the O-line.

Giants have had some good O-lineman through the years. Simms had Bart Oates and Jumbo Elliott, Manning had David Diehl, Chris Snee (New Jersey guy btw), and Shaun O’Hara. But yeah, I guess they weren’t perennial All Pros.

[bk400]

Originally Posted by cgjackson222

Giants have had some good O-lineman through the years. Simms had Bart Oates and Jumbo Elliott, Manning had David Diehl, Chris Snee (New Jersey guy btw), and Shaun O’Hara. But yeah, I guess they weren’t perennial All Pros.

Fair points on Oates, Jumbo, DD, and Chris Snee. They were better than what their individual accolades would suggest. At the least, they prevented the opposition from killing their wards.

I'm seriously concerned that De Vito might get injured badly playing the Eagles next week.

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by bk400

I'm seriously concerned that De Vito might get injured badly playing the Eagles next week.

2 games left out of three against an Eagles team that may be trying to make a statement against a lesser team, after struggling a bit lately.

Not to mention the Eagles have always just been bad juju for the Giants historically. They could write a book on all the bad things that happened to the Giants while playing the Eagles.

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by cgjackson222

Giants have had some good O-lineman through the years. Simms had Bart Oates and Jumbo Elliott, Manning had David Diehl, Chris Snee (New Jersey guy btw), and Shaun O’Hara. But yeah, I guess they weren’t perennial All Pros.

Don't forget Brad Benson. Mainly just an old reliable, but the only O-lineman I've ever heard of getting named NFL Offensive Player of the Week for his dominating work against Dexter Manley.

Overall Simms took much more punishment and many more sacks then Manning. Whether is was the era or the playing style is debatable. Simms was more mobile and would try to stretch plays out. Manning was more likely to throw the ball away or turtle up for a low yardage sack if nothing was there.

Manning had some nice O lines in the late 2000's, though most of his teams tended to either have strong run blocking, or strong pass blocking...but rarely both.