E270 McCarthy question

[rhettyeakley]

Colgan’s made mistakes though. The card intended to depict Joe Kelley (Toronto) instead shows John Kelly who was with Newark.

My favorite Colgan’s “screw up” was the E254 card of Ryan, St Paul. It was intended to depict Jack “Gulfport” Ryan who played with St Paul in 1910…instead they used a nearly decade old image of Jimmy Ryan (who was in N172 Old Judge set) and the evidence is that it is the same image used on Jimmy Ryan’s E104 Breisch-Williams card.

[h2oya311]

I thought this was put to bed with Ted Z’s post of the 1909 Newark team from his Reach Guide. The link to that picture appears to be broken.

I’d love to know whether the Colgan’s Chip does, in fact, picture Joe McCarthy or somebody else, regardless of whether it was the intent of the Colgan’s Chip manufacturers to show Joe. Here’s his Pinkerton Cabinet, which doesn’t help at all…but happy to show it off:



And I’ve got the Colgan's Chip too, just in case:

[Leon]

No idea of the answer to this, long ago, question (apparently John Kelly) but that is a cool action pose Pinkerton!

Originally Posted by h2oya311

I thought this was put to bed with Ted Z’s post of the 1909 Newark team from his Reach Guide. The link to that picture appears to be broken.

I’d love to know whether the Colgan’s Chip does, in fact, picture Joe McCarthy or somebody else, regardless of whether it was the intent of the Colgan’s Chip manufacturers to show Joe. Here’s his Pinkerton Cabinet, which doesn’t help at all…but happy to show it off:



And I’ve got the Colgan's Chip too, just in case:

[The Nasty Nati]

My two cents. I think it's definitely supposed to be Joe McCarthy, but I don't think the picture is him.

To me, the big giveaway is the player depicted on the Colgan's Chips clearly has light-colored eyes, either blue or green. But if you look at photos of Joe McCarthy, you will see that he had dark eyes, dark brown.

Also, Joe McCarthy had a pointed, downward-turned nose. The player on the Colgan's Chips does not.

Finally, McCarthy had rather thin lips, whereas the player pictured has fuller lips (granted, you lose that as you age).

[bcbgcbrcb]

I noticed on a recent YouTube video that a graded Tin Top version of the McCarthy card surfaced at a West Palm Beach, FL card show a couple of weeks ago. Sticker on it was $2,500. Couldn’t tell who the seller/owner was.