Hey, pennant guys

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

Great stuff, Mike!

If you’re new to pennants, you might not know the “ball” on the Cards and Indians pennants is actually the SS logo for Sports Specialties. They were a stadium concessionaire.

The Senators and Braves look to be trimmed at the tips. This is kind of a “no no” but can be overlooked (by some) if the price is right. Maybe they’re not trimmed; maybe it’s the camera angle…

I love how the border around the Pirates picture is a pirate hat and bandana.

The extra cool thing about the Pirates is that all the graphics have a velvet like texture to them. Just like the Collegiate 3D pennants. It still cracks but it isn’t just “paint”. Trench seemed to do this on quite a few 1960-61 picture pennants and at least one logo pennant (Phillies w/cap and orbiting baseball).

[perezfan]

Buyer Beware....

Not that anyone here would likely pony up the crazy asking price for this, but be warned that this is almost surely a reproduction pennant, and NOT original...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/14547875566...Bk9SR6aP8YqIYw

The spine and stitching are all wrong for this pennant and it should be oversized (not full sized). Note how the seller's measurements include the tassels. Likely made by Mitchell & Ness, and heavily/artificially aged and weathered to look old.

Stay away!

[perezfan]

Interesting and seldom-seen manufacturer tag on this one. Has this company been discussed yet? If anyone knows about R. Worton, I guess it's probably Kyle...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/16647730682...Bk9SR6iP8YqIYw

[Domer05]

Originally Posted by perezfan

Interesting and seldom-seen manufacturer tag on this one. Has this company been discussed yet? If anyone knows about R. Worton, I guess it's probably Kyle...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/16647730682...Bk9SR6iP8YqIYw

R. Worton was a brick and mortar retailer located outside (Old) Yankee Stadium. His tags have been seen on a number of pennants by different makers. Therefore, he's probably not this pennant's maker; rather, just its distributor.

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by Domer05

R. Worton was a brick and mortar retailer located outside (Old) Yankee Stadium. His tags have been seen on a number of pennants by different makers. Therefore, he's probably not this pennant's maker; rather, just its distributor.

That's very interesting and I now recall mention of them earlier in this thread.

What's odd to me is that the Worton Tag is incorporated into the pennant's original stitching which attaches the spine to the base felt pennant. So the manufacturer must have done this in the original production phase just for Worton.

[UKCardGuy]

I'm not 100% sure that it is incorporated into the pennants original stitching. Looking at the close up, is it possible that the tag was added on top of the original stitching? The loops on the stitches where the label is don't look the same as what's on the rest of the spine stitching.

[Domer05]

Originally Posted by perezfan

That's very interesting and I now recall mention of them earlier in this thread.

What's odd to me is that the Worton Tag is incorporated into the pennant's original stitching which attaches the spine to the base felt pennant. So the manufacturer must have done this in the original production phase just for Worton.

That's right. The maker sewed the retailer's/distributor's/concessionaire's label on, for them, during the manufacturing process. They would have done this for any retailer that ordered a particularly high volume of pennants from them, at wholesale prices, of course.

I had always thought Trench was the first maker to do this; but, as you'll see in my last post, actually, The Reproduction Co. was the first, as they happily sewed Spalding's label on collegiate and baseball pennants they made and supplied the Chicago-based company with.

[bocca001]

I was sort of familiar with reproduction co from the baseball pennants, but did not know about the early football pennants and others, or the role that this company played in modernizing pennants. Really enjoyed reading your piece Kyle.

Also, I noticed that, for me, the pennant fever link at the bottom of your posts doesn't take me to your webapge. I get some kind of error. Not sure If I'm the only one. I find it by searching pennant fever on google. The pennant factory one works fine.

[Duluth Eskimo]

Originally Posted by Domer05

R. Worton was a brick and mortar retailer located outside (Old) Yankee Stadium. His tags have been seen on a number of pennants by different makers. Therefore, he's probably not this pennant's maker; rather, just its distributor.

I have this pennant, but mine does not have a tag on the back. Leads me to believe this is most likely correct.

[Duluth Eskimo]

Originally Posted by perezfan

Interesting and seldom-seen manufacturer tag on this one. Has this company been discussed yet? If anyone knows about R. Worton, I guess it's probably Kyle...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/16647730682...Bk9SR6iP8YqIYw

This is funny. I’ve not seen this repro before, but it has all the tell tale signs of a Mitchell and Ness. Tassles, placement, stitching, etc. weird. I have bought and sold 3 or 4 of the original pennant over the years. There was a small find of them in a trunk in MA (I think) many years ago that were sold on eBay. They’re the most common of the early pennants, but still incredibly beautiful.

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by Duluth Eskimo

This is funny. I’ve not seen this repro before, but it has all the tell tale signs of a Mitchell and Ness. Tassles, placement, stitching, etc. weird. I have bought and sold 3 or 4 of the original pennant over the years. There was a small find of them in a trunk in MA (I think) many years ago that were sold on eBay. They’re the most common of the early pennants, but still incredibly beautiful.

Thanks for the info, Jason...

Yes, I've always thought that one (the original undated and oversized version) is the most "common" of all the oversized teens pennants. Makes sense that there was a small find, as lots of them are NRMT-MT condition.

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by perezfan

Buyer Beware....

Not that anyone here would likely pony up the crazy asking price for this, but be warned that this is almost surely a reproduction pennant, and NOT original...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/14547875566...Bk9SR6aP8YqIYw

The spine and stitching are all wrong for this pennant and it should be oversized (not full sized). Note how the seller's measurements include the tassels. Likely made by Mitchell & Ness, and heavily/artificially aged and weathered to look old.

Stay away!

Thanks for the heads up...I was just about ready to Buy it Now!

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

Thanks for the heads up...I was just about ready to Buy it Now!

Haha. I guess the point I was trying to make is… If you’re going to ask an outrageous price for something, try to make sure it is what you say it is.

[Chstrite]

NFS - Finally found the missing piece to my Brooks Robinson All Star Game Pennants (1960-1974). This took several years. The missing Pennant was 1964 (NYC), which is not very nice but I’ll take it. In 1960-1962 MLB had two AS games in different locations. Some years had 2 or more pennants. Brooks was honorary Captain in 1978. Below are all of the Pennants by year with variations I own shown separately. I especially like the scrolls with Brooks name. The 1965 Pennant came in a blue and red version with a picture. In addition to the Pennants I struggled but found each All Star Game Press Pin, Ticket and Program/Scorecard. Always looking for the buttons, which are not easy to find. Enjoy.

[UKCardGuy]

Originally Posted by Chstrite

NFS - Finally found the missing piece to my Brooks Robinson All Star Game Pennants (1960-1974). This took several years. The missing Pennant was 1964 (NYC), which is not very nice but I’ll take it. In 1960-1962 MLB had two AS games in different locations. Some years had 2 or more pennants. Brooks was honorary Captain in 1978. Below are all of the Pennants by year with variations I own shown separately. I especially like the scrolls with Brooks name. The 1965 Pennant came in a blue and red version with a picture. In addition to the Pennants I struggled but found each All Star Game Press Pin, Ticket and Program/Scorecard. Always looking for the buttons, which are not easy to find. Enjoy.

Congrats! That's a great ASG collection. I haven't seen that 1974 ASG pennant before. Very cool. I think there was a similar design for 1975. Great to see them all fanned out like that.

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by UKCardGuy

Congrats! That's a great ASG collection. I haven't seen that 1974 ASG pennant before. Very cool. I think there was a similar design for 1975. Great to see them all fanned out like that.

Yes….a fantastic group of ASG pennants! So satisfying to “complete” something. 👍

[Vintagedeputy]

Originally Posted by Chstrite

NFS - Finally found the missing piece to my Brooks Robinson All Star Game Pennants (1960-1974). This took several years. The missing Pennant was 1964 (NYC), which is not very nice but I’ll take it. In 1960-1962 MLB had two AS games in different locations. Some years had 2 or more pennants. Brooks was honorary Captain in 1978. Below are all of the Pennants by year with variations I own shown separately. I especially like the scrolls with Brooks name. The 1965 Pennant came in a blue and red version with a picture. In addition to the Pennants I struggled but found each All Star Game Press Pin, Ticket and Program/Scorecard. Always looking for the buttons, which are not easy to find. Enjoy.

Absolutely incredible!