1911 Addie Joss Day??? RPPC at Mile High

[T206Jim]

You are right, that is not League Park in the Cobb RPPC and thus can't be from Addie Joss Day. I believe images of Cobb in a Cleveland uniform outside of Addie Joss Day are known. Good catch!

[Bicem]

Nice detective work!

Jim, do you know why Cobb was wearing a Cleveland uniform other than for the Joss benefit game?

[Dardevl]

Thanks Jim and Jeff!

I'm working on a Bennett Park dating guide and some of the stadium features happened to stand out to me.

I can't speak to why Cobb would be wearing a Cleveland uniform; But I have run across a later photo with Cobb donning a Cleveland uniform with Tris Speaker auctioned at Heritage, which is clearly not Addie Joss Day either.

https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball-c...umbnail-071515

[T206Jim]

Deron, as you will note on the panorama of Addie Joss Day the Cleveland team is wearing dark caps. The player applying the tag to the runner is wearing a white cap. The tagging player's uniform and cap matches the Detroit Tigers home uniforms up until 1913.

These facts raise the uncomfortable possibility that the RPPC depicts an actual Cleveland player sliding into a Tiger player at Bennett Park sometime in the early 1910s. A clear image of the sliding player's face would be helpful, but this may be the most likely scenario.

[Dardevl]

Agreed Jim! There seems to be a solid case for an in-depth review of the RPPC and the subjects. However, your scenario seems to have the most validity.

[Bicem]

I'm convinced, not him.

[Casey2296]

Great catch, I had my eye on that one, if the story was true it's a pretty significant PC. One of the reasons I appreciate this place so much.

[Fred]

Nice catch guys!

Why do TPGs encapsulate and label items like post cards incorrectly? I thought the "new" SGC did not like encapsulating items (like post cards and CDVs) they could not correctly label.

My understanding is that SGC didn't want to encapsulate a CDV of Ezra Sutton because they couldn't be sure it was him. However they did encapsulate a team CDV which had Sutton in the team photo. SGC totally blew it when they didn't encapsulate the Sutton CDV because the consignor could have gotten a bit more for the item if it were in a slab.

Look at the following comparison. How could SGC have missed this. Part of the team CDV is on the right (that team CDV was encapsulated). The CDV of Sutton is on the left. Look closely, the picture of Sutton in the team CDV is almost the same image as the other CDV. The understanding is that all the CDVs came in the same scrap book. Wow, I used to stand up for SGC in the past, but anymore, I'm not a huge fan.


Sutton CDV_1.jpg