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Old 11-25-2023, 07:22 AM
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Not that I had any doubt they were real, but Steve’s find ends any debate if there was a legitimate one. Just spending 10 seconds with a raw Herpo dispels any doubt.

My favorite part of this thread is Ryan setting up the challenge of whether he is more honest than the unnamed, unknown old time dealer from decades ago — who apparently has now been revealed to be either dishonest or simply wrong. I’ve wrestled with this for a bit but I am prepared to endorse Ryan over this unnamed, unknown dealer. I hope you’ll all join me.
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Old 11-25-2023, 07:42 AM
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I think you just have to recognize it as a religious belief at this point if anyone is still maintaining they're fake.
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Old 11-25-2023, 07:45 AM
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I think you just have to recognize it as a religious belief at this point if anyone is still maintaining they're fake.
Yeah, an Agnostic belief, but I did date the minister's daughter. We started dating on June 8, 2006. I would have started to date her two days earlier, but something about 6-6-6.
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I had been shown one of those ads years ago by Zach Rice (but stupidly hadn't saved the image the last time me and Brian went at this on the forum here) so thanks for showing those Steve...that should end the debate!

Brian is a good guy but also VERY WRONG!

Debate over.

**NEW DEBATE**

Why are they so rare compared to their 1916 counterparts!?!
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**NEW DEBATE**

Why are they so rare compared to their 1916 counterparts!?!
And why isn't Paul Waner in the set?
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And why isn't Paul Waner in the set?
OMG, mic drop!
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I had been shown one of those ads years ago by Zach Rice (but stupidly hadn't saved the image the last time me and Brian went at this on the forum here) so thanks for showing those Steve...that should end the debate!

Brian is a good guy but also VERY WRONG!

Debate over.

**NEW DEBATE**

Why are they so rare compared to their 1916 counterparts!?!
Nope.
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Old 11-25-2023, 08:58 AM
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Nope.
Brian is holding out for...
An image of a store employee...holding his ID to the camera in one hand...holding the cards in the other hand...passing the cards to a young man...young man in a Herpolsheimers & Co suit...with price tag of $2.50...geostamped to the Grand Rapids address...holding that days newspaper from 1921.

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Great work from Steve confirming what the reasonable, rational people in this thread already knew.......
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Old 11-25-2023, 09:11 AM
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An image of a store employee...holding his ID to the camera in one hand...holding the cards in the other hand...passing the cards to a young man...young man in a Herpolsheimers & Co suit...with price tag of $2.50...geostamped to the Grand Rapids address...holding that days newspaper from 1921.

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**NEW DEBATE**

Why are they so rare compared to their 1916 counterparts!?!

My guess is that the boy suits in 1921 were so ugly/overpriced that most parents could easily override the kid's desperate pleas to purchase it.

Brian (the Brian that is firmly on the 'cards are real' side)
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For anyone calling them "fakes" or "reprints", is the argument that:
a) the entire card was printed in the 1970s-1990s? Or that ...
b) an authentic 1921 blank back card (W575 for example) was used and a fake Herp back was printed onto an original blank back in the 1970s-1990s?
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Not that I had any doubt they were real, but Steve’s find ends any debate if there was a legitimate one. Just spending 10 seconds with a raw Herpo dispels any doubt.

My favorite part of this thread is Ryan setting up the challenge of whether he is more honest than the unnamed, unknown old time dealer from decades ago — who apparently has now been revealed to be either dishonest or simply wrong. I’ve wrestled with this for a bit but I am prepared to endorse Ryan over this unnamed, unknown dealer. I hope you’ll all join me.
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