Same SGC 7 Mantle Sold 4 times in 15 months

[Snowman]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

Jesus christ, some of the largest amount of fruads are perpetrated by church patrons ON their own church people.. ask any investigator. As an aside, anytime an ebay auction has "god bless" it usually a scam!


Talk about fishing for reasons

You obviously don't know any Mormons or Jehovah's Witnesses. You can't lump them in with your average church goer.

But yes, in general, I otherwise agree with you.

[Peter_Spaeth]

I don't think any one faith has a higher propensity to virtue, or to lack thereof. Human nature is what it is, independent of specific faiths, IMO.

https://www.grunge.com/1005171/notor...mon-murderers/

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Snowman

You obviously don't know any Mormons or Jehovah's Witnesses. You can't lump them in with your average church goer.

But yes, in general, I otherwise agree with you.

LOL, I know several and they are no better or worse than anyone else.

[Snowman]

Originally Posted by bnorth

LOL, I know several and they are no better or worse than anyone else.

Sorry, I'm an atheist, but I'm calling BS on you "knowing several" if you honestly believe that.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Snowman

Sorry, I'm an atheist, but I'm calling BS on you "knowing several" if you honestly believe that.

My step father was a Mormon and I attended sunday school and church services at a Morman church. So I am calling BS on you.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Snowman

Sorry, I'm an atheist, but I'm calling BS on you "knowing several" if you honestly believe that.

How could you possibly know who Ben knows? Odd post.

[raulus]

Originally Posted by Snowman

You obviously don't know any Mormons or Jehovah's Witnesses. You can't lump them in with your average church goer.

But yes, in general, I otherwise agree with you.

Appreciate the vote of confidence from Travis for my fellow believers. We certainly strive for perfection, and hold ourselves to high standards.

But I would be more focused on your personal experiences with that fellow rather than their faith. From what you mentioned earlier, he has proven himself to be a man of integrity, even when the opportunity arose to take advantage of a situation.

As others have mentioned, as a member of that faith, we are as mortal and fallible as most, with our fair share of failure.

[Peter_Spaeth]

FWIW, PWCC was at the epicenter of the blatant, shameless market manipulation in 2016 or thereabouts. It wasn't just them, to be clear.

[Snowman]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

FWIW, PWCC was at the epicenter of the blatant, shameless market manipulation in 2016 or thereabouts. It wasn't just them, to be clear.

What sort of market manipulations took place in ~2016?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Snowman

What sort of market manipulations took place in ~2016?

Prices on cards like high end Rose Ryan and Koufaxes doubling or tripling within weeks. Shill bidding galore on ebay. PWCC promising bidding reform but blatantly ignoring its own promises. People not paying auction houses after setting record prices. There were lengthy discussions of all the gory details. Even Brent essentially admitted there was a group of guys trying to "push" the market. Look for threads by or about Courtney DeLorme (now deceased).