Raw Cards B/S/T?

[jingram058]

Originally Posted by midmo

Why would you limit yourself? If you hate the holders just crack them open. Not that hard.

Because 99 and 9/10% of cards for sale in the B/S/T are graded. That's not my thing. I'm not looking to get rich off of baseball cards. I just like the cards irrespective of condition or grade. Graded cards cost a lot more. I can't afford them. Nobody is going to pay to grade an entire lot of beaters. Seems that since there are so many graded cards here that it would be only natural to have a spot for folks to sell and buy cards that aren't graded.

[parkplace33]

I second this and think it would be a great idea.

[BobbyStrawberry]

Personally I don't see the need for it. I see raw cards for sale on here all the time, and for those who collect both graded and raw, all this would do is create another section to have to check on.

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

Personally I don't see the need for it. I see raw cards for sale on here all the time, and for those who collect both graded and raw, all this would do is create another section to have to check on.

I have to agree, even though I have zero interest in cards that have been opinionated, I just whip out the old handy dandy butter knife and... voila!

There are plenty of sections, even though there are many good arguments for adding more.

[Luke]

Raw cards are welcome in any of the sections. I'd say at least half of us don't care if a card is graded or not. But it's easier to have 1 place for T206s rather than 2 different ones.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by jingram058

Because 99 and 9/10% of cards for sale in the B/S/T are graded. That's not my thing. I'm not looking to get rich off of baseball cards. I just like the cards irrespective of condition or grade. Graded cards cost a lot more. I can't afford them. Nobody is going to pay to grade an entire lot of beaters. Seems that since there are so many graded cards here that it would be only natural to have a spot for folks to sell and buy cards that aren't graded.

Try the $1 weekly auction section in the BST area. Buy some cards and/or list some. Everyone is welcome.

[midmo]

That's just not true. Tons of beaters get graded. I buy 1-4 all the time and pop em open to put in my binder sets. Most people I know buy both. No need for more sections.

Originally Posted by jingram058

Because 99 and 9/10% of cards for sale in the B/S/T are graded. That's not my thing. I'm not looking to get rich off of baseball cards. I just like the cards irrespective of condition or grade. Graded cards cost a lot more. I can't afford them. Nobody is going to pay to grade an entire lot of beaters. Seems that since there are so many graded cards here that it would be only natural to have a spot for folks to sell and buy cards that aren't graded.

[campyfan39]

I agree. I also prefer the term "pure"

[perezfan]

I like the idea...

Even if a lower-grade card is slabbed, it's probably overpriced (largely because of the grading cost). I like "EX" condition vintage raw cards, but rarely see them offered. So a separate section for raw would be cool!

[Snowman]

I buy raw and graded. I don't care about the slabs, I care about the cards inside them. I just crack them out if I prefer them raw. And raw cards are not cheaper for the stuff I buy. Every raw dealer over grades their stuff in comparison to today's TPG standards. You can't compare someone's raw "NM-MT" price to a PSA 8 price because that card is never getting into a PSA 8 slab. It's usually a 6 at best.

[icurnmedic]

Originally Posted by Snowman

I buy raw and graded. And raw cards are not cheaper for the stuff I buy. Every raw dealer over grades their stuff in comparison to today's TPG standards. You can't compare someone's raw "NM-MT" price to a PSA 8 price because that card is never getting into a PSA 8 slab. It's usually a 6 at best.

Can't say it any better than this!

I buy both, prefer slabbed as usually there is little argument on technical grades.

I don't see a need for another section, $.02

[Tere1071]

Originally Posted by midmo

That's just not true. Tons of beaters get graded. I buy 1-4 all the time and pop em open to put in my binder sets. Most people I know buy both. No need for more sections.

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Hey, since when is a VG/EX card a beater?

Phil aka Tere1071

Complete 1953 Bowman Color, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1974, and 1975 Topps Baseball sets under revision as the budget and wife allows

Under construction:
1967 Topps Baseball - 330/533: Overall p-g, missing all of the bigger name stars and many commons, no high numbers or posters

1968 Topps Baseball - 420/598: Overall good, missing all of the bigger name stars and many commons from 1-375; no game cards

1969 Topps Baseball - 328-664: Overall good, missing all of the stars and many cards after #217; no deckle edged cards
1969 Topps Baseball Team Stamps- missing Twins; Cubs; Cardinals; Braves; Tigers; Orioles; Mets; Giants; Pirates; Red Sox; Pilots; and Reds. I need the following individual stamp that appear together on the same block: Siebert; Pasual; Bailey; McBean, plus Hannan

1970 Topps Baseball Insert sets:
Booklets- missing 7; 9; 11; 13; 14; 15; 17; and 23.
Posters # 1; 8; 14; 17; and 19
I do not have any 1970 scratch offs yet.

1971 Topps Coins- 120/153
I do not have any 1971 scratch offs yet.

1974 Topps Baseball Washington variations- 32; 53; 77; 102; 125; 226; 241; 309; 364; and 599

[Snowman]

Originally Posted by Tere1071

Hey, since when is a VG/EX card a beater?

Since at least my most recent submission, at least according to PSA.

Note, there are no creases or other hidden surface flaws on any of these cards. And they all have clean backs.

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[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by Snowman

Since at least my most recent submission, at least according to PSA.

Note, there are no creases or other hidden surface flaws on any of these cards. And they all have clean backs.

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Nice looking cards!

[Louisville_Hugger]

I certainly wouldn’t be opposed to it. I also prefer ungraded at least for commons and mid-lower tier hall of famers.

[Leon]

Unless there is an overwhelming response to change something, I prefer to let things be. I think if a member wants to put "raw" or "ungraded" in the subject title it will probably suffice. I prrefer less sections, than more, generally speaking.
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