N266 Red Cross - confirming the master set

[G1911]

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

Hey Greg,

Did you see this group of 11 from 2007 at Heritage?

Not even sure what to call these, or how they got into PSA slabs described as regular N266's...but here they are.

https://sports.ha.com/itm/boxing-col...umbnail-071515

Thank you Dave! I remembered a lot of these but I couldn't find the listing, probably because I was searching for "cut", "proof", "blank back". These are the ones I arbitrarily assigned as type 4's.

Here's the other type of these odd cuts (not my card! The one on the right). This one lacks the blue titling at bottom and has it in red at the top, like the production cards, but moves the copyright line.

I don't think they are proper cards or proofs as I've often seen them described, but I only handled some once and don't own any to properly examine.

[G1911]

And the updated confirmation list:

[teza11]

Hi Greg,

The attached confirms another 4-5 of the Type 4's.

Jeff

[G1911]

Originally Posted by teza11

Hi Greg,

The attached confirms another 4-5 of the Type 4's.

Jeff

Thank you Jeff! This brings it up to 48% of the theoretical combinations confirmed; OP dated.

Largely waiting to see if we will show a card confirmed with both type 3 (cut card with the red title at top) and type 4 (cut card card with the blue title at bottom instead). So far all 17 confirmed are not yet shown in the other type; this may be from the same piece and each card only comes with a type 3 or a type 4. I expect type 1 and type 2 will each have all 25.

[G1911]

Well I've had a difficult time identifying many more of the regular and true 'cards', types 1 and 2. They are easily discerned in hands when I take my glasses off but via scans, not so much to my eyes.

I did, however, find this very interesting miscut in an old auction. Note the top strip. It has a normal back and does not appear to be handcut. The layout is a proper type 1 card. The top strip is similar in color to the type 4's top and left framing border. Presumably this is an indicator this card was on the top row of the sheet, but I would expect a white stock that would be cheaper and more sensible to use rather than this. Some interesting possibilities here.

Unrelated - anyone have a pic of the Smith/Van Heest back? This is one of the few I don't own a copy of and there seems to be no available back scan online.

[Exhibitman]

Hope this helps.

I've always figured that the oddball versions were from some sort of advertising or album that we haven't found yet. The non-Red Cross version could be from some other brand. Like the Janus poster: