This is Vent Thread - Lets define "Pumper" relating to this section of this website

[Peter_Spaeth]

I am not even sure what the argument is about at this point. If the question is whether Ryan is "pumping" cards, I would say he is not.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I am not even sure what the argument is about at this point. If the question is whether Ryan is "pumping" cards, I would say he is not.

It's just a vent thread to bitch about me that tried not to say it explicitly at first, triggered by a statement in another thread that does not even talk about this guy at all. There's no real argument.

[sportscardpete]

There is a big difference between talking up your cards and pumping. For example, Ryan (hey Ryan) has some great Wagner portraits. Wagner is hot. Ryan is allowed to talk about his collection.

What I would think is pumping is if Ryan is talking up his Wagner's and how great of a buy this is and then selling right after (or having the intent to sell). Ryan - I am watching auction houses for your Wagners!! lol

Where I think you see that more - as mentioned earlier in this thread - is on youtube, where people are pumping quick flips. Again, that is their business, no judgment at all.

To be honest, I think we all have a sense of what a collectors true intention is. And for most of us who wander aimlessly on here for no reason other than to talk about cardboard, I wouldn't classify 99% of us as pumpers.

Some things that tell me you aren't a pumper: you have a flickr, you are on here more than 5x a day to read content, and you take out your cards at least once a week to look at them.

It is naturally to talk about your cards and why they are great buys. I tell my friends all the time why Ruth and Cobb are great buys. I am not trying to pump them, but I can also see why people think that. I am just talking about cards I like, not hoping that a random friend props up my Cobb postcard prices so I can sell them.

PS - Ty Cobb rookie postcards are hot

PPS - For sale, Ty Cobb rookie postcards. DM me.

[brianp-beme]

I have been shamelessly pumping the sort of lovable vintage dreck for years on here as seen below. Heed my words or miss out on the low condition gravy train.

Brian (a train full of gravy is just asking to skip off the rails and plunge into a potato field)

[jingram058]

Originally Posted by brianp-beme

I have been shamelessly pumping the sort of lovable vintage dreck for years on here as seen below. Heed my words or miss out on the low condition gravy train.

Brian (a train full of gravy is just asking to skip off the rails and plunge into a potato field)

That, sir, is a very cool collection. Any self-respecting card collector would be proud of them all. Awesome cards.

[Rhotchkiss]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I am not even sure what the argument is about at this point. If the question is whether Ryan is "pumping" cards, I would say he is not.

Peter, I am confident I am not pumping cards (at least I don’t intend to). But thank you.

It is a vent thread. In response to many threads discussing values/investments, G1911 constantly accuses pumpers on this site of encouraging people to empty their 401K’s, borrow against assets, etc. Its annoying and beyond old bc (1) it’s often irrelevant to the specific topic/conversation, and (2) it implies we have nefarious board members posting opinions solely for personal gain, which I believe is simply not true. I often opine here on investment matters and cards. Many of us do. Personally, I can’t help feeling like I am called a pumper for doing so. I imagine I am not the only one who feels this way.

Anyway, perhaps I am the asshole or overly sensitive, or both. So be it. I have vented and now I will retire to my corner

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

Peter, I am confident I am not pumping cards (at least I don’t intend to). But thank you.

It is a vent thread. In response to many threads discussing values/investments, G1911 constantly accuses pumpers on this site of encouraging people to empty their 401K’s, borrow against assets, etc. Its annoying and beyond old bc (1) it’s often irrelevant to the specific topic/conversation, and (2) it implies we have nefarious board members posting opinions solely for personal gain, which I believe is simply not true. I often opine here on investment matters and cards. Many of us do. Personally, I can’t help feeling like I am called a pumper for doing so. I imagine I am not the only one who feels this way.

Anyway, perhaps I am the asshole or overly sensitive, or both. So be it. I have vented and now I will retire to my corner

Since you solicited opinions on the matter, I'd suggest worrying less about whether or not people think you are pumper and focus on trying to be a nicer human being.

[Rhotchkiss]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

Since you solicited opinions on the matter, I'd suggest worrying less about whether or not people think you are pumper and focus on trying to be a nicer human being.

Thank you for your opinion.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

Since you solicited opinions on the matter, I'd suggest worrying less about whether or not people think you are pumper and focus on trying to be a nicer human being.

Says the nice human being

ps...I fully admit I am not nice.

btw, I think T205 cobbs are about to take off. Better grab one!

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[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by Leon

Says the nice human being

ps...I fully admit I am not nice.

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I try to be nice!!! I can't say I succeed all the time.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

I try to be nice!!!

My girlfriend tells me I am not nice but my dogs know better.
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[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by Leon

My girlfriend tells me I am not nice but my dogs know better.
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To me, how someone treats animals is a good gauge of the kind of person they are. I'm sure my wife would tell me I'm selfish and have way too many cardboard pictures of dead guys.

[frohme]

Originally Posted by Leon

My girlfriend tells me I am not nice but my dogs know better.
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and ultimately, which is most important, Leon? Personally, I value my dogs' opinions ... happily, theirs tend to agree with my wife's

[Gorditadogg]

Ryan, I don't think of you as a pumper, you seem to be a buy-and-hold sort, looking to accumulate your cardboard.

There have been a few pumpers on here, in my opinion. There was a guy not too long ago that was saying you can't go wrong with Mantle rookies, they were going to go up, up, up. Turns out he had 2 or 3 52T Mantles coming up at HA.

Another guy on here was talking about 82T Gwynn as one of the cards with the most growth potential. Co-incidentally he was unloading several Gwynn PSA 10s RCs.

I don't believe Ruth, Cobb, Jackson etc. have any extra upside than other stars, but saying that doesn't make you a pumper, unless you are sitting on those cards trying to move them.

[Snowman]

Originally Posted by Gorditadogg

Ryan, I don't think of you as a pumper, you seem to be a buy-and-hold sort, looking to accumulate your cardboard.

There have been a few pumpers on here, in my opinion. There was a guy not too long ago that was saying you can't go wrong with Mantle rookies, they were going to go up, up, up. Turns out he had 2 or 3 52T Mantles coming up at HA.

Another guy on here was talking about 82T Gwynn as one of the cards with the most growth potential. Co-incidentally he was unloading several Gwynn PSA 10s RCs.

I don't believe Ruth, Cobb, Jackson etc. have any extra upside than other stars, but saying that doesn't make you a pumper, unless you are sitting on those cards trying to move them.

Saying that you can't go wrong with a 52 Mantle doesn't really feel like pumping to me. Even if you own ten of them. It's a pretty common viewpoint in the hobby. Perhaps even the most common when asked which cards one should target. But a guy with a box full of Gwynn RCs telling everyone that those are going to the moon soon and you'd better get them while you still can... ya, that's definitely pumping. Or rather it's the flavor of pumping that I dislike. I guess both could be "pumping" technically, but the first doesn't feel slimy, while the second one does.

[Republicaninmass]

This thread took a turn for the worse.

Everyone has their own opinions


Here is mine..

M116 wagners psa 2s are worth 50k, just not on the bst boards

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by Leon

Says the nice human being

ps...I fully admit I am not nice.

btw, I think T205 cobbs are about to take off. Better grab one!

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Net54 pumpers in action.
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[hcv123]

Originally Posted by Leon

Says the nice human being

ps...I fully admit I am not nice.

btw, I think T205 cobbs are about to take off. Better grab one!

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Is yours available!??

[Leon]

Originally Posted by hcv123

Is yours available!??

LOL...no. That was a fake pump above.

They aren't very scarce and can be had at almost any time.
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