Is Anyone Updating the SCD Card Catalog?

[Leon]

First of all, I feel the top TPG's need to pull their proverbial heads out of their asses. Until they recognize W503, W575-1 etc... aren't hand cut, as well as many others, their opinions are clouded with inaccuracies. You would think they would have gotten those right by now. To me, it's like arguing with someone who still believes the earth is flat or man never landed on the moon. One can hope they correct their mistakes, then we can have a discussion based on reality and the facts. Maybe TPGs just don't need to be included in the mission, since they are quite inept at knowing things they should.

That said, I am all for an update, but only with collectors/dealers who aren't lemmings. Maybe CGC can help.....I don't think Andy B will follow the other lemmings.

And Fred, here is the making of the Egan update...again..

https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=144460

Originally Posted by TCMA

Funny, this is something we discuss in our office regularly. Several times in the past few months we’ve discovered errors and/or cards yet to be cataloged. Should be exciting hobby news, recorded somewhere for the collecting community to benefit from. Instead, we have trouble getting the grading services to recognize them at all. It’s been frustrating.


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[butchie_t]

Originally Posted by Leon

First of all, I feel the top TPG's need to pull their proverbial heads out of their asses. Until they recognize W503, W575-1 etc... aren't hand cut, as well as many others, their opinions are clouded with inaccuracies. You would think they would have gotten those right by now. To me, it's like arguing with someone who still believes the earth is flat or man never landed on the moon. One can hope they correct their mistakes, then we can have a discussion based on reality and the facts. Maybe TPGs just don't need to be included in the mission, since they are quite inept at knowing things they should.

That said, I am all for an update, but only with collectors/dealers who aren't lemmings. Maybe CGC can help.....I don't think Andy B will follow the other lemmings.

And Fred, here is the making of the Egan update...again..

https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=144460

My inclination would be to keep the TPGs out of the entire project. This would not be something that was being done for them as much as it would be done for the hobbyists. I just have a real hard time seeing any positive input from them in this endeavor. They are all about the coin, and this project would be all about the cards and such.

That being said, how could this product ultimately drive the TPGs to abide by the information within the many pages. Or maybe 'we' don't care???

More questions......

B.T.

[Exhibitman]

The only way it would work is to have the individuals who are experts in specific fields serve as editors for those fields and have others contribute. For example, I wrote the Exhibit book but i can think of at least three other collectors who have better knowledge than I do about specific elements of the issues.

That is how we do it; the question of where we do it is probably an online database of some sort administered by someone on a nonprofit basis.

[butchie_t]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

The only way it would work is to have the individuals who are experts in specific fields serve as editors for those fields and have others contribute. For example, I wrote the Exhibit book but i can think of at least three other collectors who have better knowledge than I do about specific elements of the issues.

That is how we do it; the question of where we do it is probably an online database of some sort administered by someone on a nonprofit basis.

There is no doubt about the fact that if this is even seriously considered is that there must be input from many different experts. Honestly, I am just a tiny collector and hardly an expert in most if not all of this.

How would a consiortum of this magnitude come together for a common outcome? Who would these hobbyists look like and would they even agree to come together for such an undertaking. Who has access to these many individuals to even tweak an interest?

B.T.

[Al C.risafulli]

This has been a pet peeve of mine for years, and as Andrew stated earlier, something we talk about in the office all the time. It's actually the subject of my catalog introduction for the next auction.

Every year, we get a couple of cards or variations that should be reported to the Standard Catalog. But there's nobody to report it to. Very frustrating.

-Al

[Rich Klein]

A few things to consider. And I will state this project is not quite as hard, it's not easy either, as people think

1) The hardest part of any catalog project is, ahem to CREATE the listings. Since we are dealing with a reasonably well known world, the adjustments, whilst it can be difficult, is not as hard as starting from scratch

2) Trust me when I say this. the TPGs have a vested interest in having correct catalog information. I wager, especially the bigger ones, have people on staff who can research unknown issues. A well-done catalog eases that burden for them. Working WITH TPGs is not a terrible option.

3) You would need to come up with a publisher or a way to sell ads or something to offset any costs. Many people on this board would do their work gratis for an ad credit but there are still start up costs

4) After you get the listings done, then the pricing comes up. Pricing is an art as well so you have to understand how to price items.

5) I suggest to start the target is what SCD currently does is pre-1980 and that tends to be acceptable for vintage which for this board works.

6) I could go chapter and verse into errors and variations but everyone has different lines drawn.

Happy to talk about this at any time

Rich

[rhettyeakley]

We just need to start an American Cartophilic Society already and get to work.

The British version has been well organized and doing the work for a LONG time…they have cataloged so much but we have been complete slackers 🤣

Any work that is done needs to be across the board and work for sports card people along with nonsports. They have always been inextricably linked in the ACC.