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Old 10-30-2023, 07:20 AM
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Almost certainly a scanner issue and I doubt it was intentional. Sometimes scanners will remove lines/dots depending on settings. Here is an example where my scanner removed the 1 in "1909" on the label and I never noticed it for a few years.



Dan, I'll also send you an email with some additional info on the seller.
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Old 10-30-2023, 07:26 AM
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Possibly a scanner issue, but that doesn't really change the issue of not being described correctly. If the scan shows something different than what is being bought, then it wasn't advertised correctly.

DJ- Can you PM me info you might have on that seller too?
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Almost certainly a scanner issue and I doubt it was intentional. Sometimes scanners will remove lines/dots depending on settings. Here is an example where my scanner removed the 1 in "1909" on the label and I never noticed it for a few years.



Dan, I'll also send you an email with some additional info on the seller.
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Old 10-30-2023, 09:52 AM
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Ebay has no interest in a dot missing. While is plausible that a scanner has something stuck to it as I used to have that happen back when I would scan documents with liquid paper on it. The next scan might have a line through it or pieces missing. This does not look like that to me. This looks like an alteration of the scan in photoshop or other program that has tools to erase or add stuff to pictures. Typical of Ebay to say it doesn't matter because they too offer tools to change or improve images on listing. I will use ebays tools to make the card online match the naked eye. If the seller doesn't respond he is at least a jerk and at worst a cheat. He is a t206 seller and even if it was an accident, he knows the values and should respond immediately if it was just a mistake. You could have asked before you purchased but I have done that before and then the seller posts the secret I found in their listing which is not great either. Regardless of why its a clear misrepresentation. The seller got much more than fair value due to either a bad scan or photo edit. I would try ebay again and demand a better outcome and supervisor. They could force the seller to take it back. I had sold an item that was a skimpy bathing suit. No returns. A girl got it an said it doesnt fit and ebay gave her the money back and pressured the hell out of me first to accept a return .

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Old 10-30-2023, 11:04 AM
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Never mind.

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Old 10-30-2023, 11:30 AM
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To each his own, but my rule of thumb for selling is that the picture, title, and description all have to line up. If there's any doubt, I'd offer the buyer a refund, no questions asked, and eat the shipping.

My stance on that doesn't change just because the buyer is placing more stock in the picture than the write-up, or because of an inadvertent scanner error. If the discrepancy might've induced the buyer to make a purchase he otherwise wouldn't have made, then he should be allowed to back out.
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Old 10-30-2023, 12:39 PM
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Default Hey Danny....I'm including my Doyle "DOT " remnant survey

Sixteen years have transpired since I first started this Joe Doyle survey regarding this "Printer's Mark"......https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=87066

My data indicates indicates that 5.96 % of Doyle's are found with this printer's mark.



- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -^ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Printer's Mark - - - -^ (remnant of "N" in Nat'L)


418 unique samples


T-brand.............Mark.....No-Mark

Piedmont 350........15..........173

Sweet Cap 350.......5...........151

Polar Bear..............4............35

Old Mill..................1.............7

Sovereign 350.........0...........19

Tolstoi....................0.............6

EPDG.....................0.............2
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Totals.................. 25 ........ 393

25 - Joe Doyle cards with this Printer's Mark...... 25/418 = 5.96 %


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