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Old 10-21-2023, 02:56 PM
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Even as a Canadian, I'm perfectly against Gaston getting in. Those teams were plied with ringers brought in for a season or two then sold off. Never cared for those Jays teams. With enough money and desire, anyone can buy a World Series-winning club, and that point was proven in 1992 and '93.

Leyland? How is he even in consideration for anything? Managing for a long time is meaningless in regards to the HOF without some more pennants or rings. I don't want to hear mention of any of these other managers when they are still seemingly shunning anything to do with Billy Martin getting in. I don't love or hate Martin, but he's been overlooked far too long.

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Old 10-21-2023, 04:06 PM
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Even as a Canadian, I'm perfectly against Gaston getting in. Those teams were plied with ringers brought in for a season or two then sold off. Never cared for those Jays teams. With enough money and desire, anyone can buy a World Series-winning club, and that point was proven in 1992 and '93.

Leyland? How is he even in consideration for anything? Managing for a long time is meaningless in regards to the HOF without some more pennants or rings. I don't want to hear mention of any of these other managers when they are still seemingly shunning anything to do with Billy Martin getting in. I don't love or hate Martin, but he's been overlooked far too long.
Martin should be in for pulling Reggie from right field in the middle of an inning on national TV and then being fully prepared to fight him in the dugout.
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On the subject of potential future GMs to be elected, as has been discussed, Theo is virtually a lock. I'm not sold on Cashman but he'll certainly merit some consideration.

I think Dave Dombrowski has the credentials having built 4 franchises that made WS (with 2 championships) and he certainly has a shot to win with a 3rd.

Who else GM wise is in the mix?
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Though his role in uniquely weaponizing stats in the game may be a bit overblown, Billy Beane is viewed as a unique visionary with a record of success and the face of a sea change in how teams look to construct their organization.

They even made a movie about the dude. He's had a rather low-profile career for quite a while, but he's still a high-end baseball executive.
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Though his role in uniquely weaponizing stats in the game may be a bit overblown, Billy Beane is viewed as a unique visionary with a record of success and the face of a sea change in how teams look to construct their organization.

They even made a movie about the dude. He's had a rather low-profile career for quite a while, but he's still a high-end baseball executive.
Thought about him for sure. Too bad he never got A's to even one WS.
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On the subject of potential future GMs to be elected, as has been discussed, Theo is virtually a lock. I'm not sold on Cashman but he'll certainly merit some consideration.

I think Dave Dombrowski has the credentials having built 4 franchises that made WS (with 2 championships) and he certainly has a shot to win with a 3rd.

Who else GM wise is in the mix?
If Cashman got in but Gene Michael is not even considered it would be a crime. Cashman took over at the right time but all those championships were won by Gene Michael.
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If Cashman got in but Gene Michael is not even considered it would be a crime. Cashman took over at the right time but all those championships were won by Gene Michael.
....on a similar/related notion, it would seem, love-him-or-hate-him, George Steinbrenner should be selected as an owner.
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15 out of 16 votes. Piniella 1 vote shy, White 2 shy.

This has got to be the worst ballot a vets type committee has ever considered.
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....on a similar/related notion, it would seem, love-him-or-hate-him, George Steinbrenner should be selected as an owner.
Could not agree more. He wanted the Indians, but CBS had to let the Yankees go. He said he would return them to glory and did so. Went through a rough stretch and then did it again. Even when they weren't winning the WS they were for the most part competitive.
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