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Old 10-19-2023, 11:27 AM
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I agree that I don't see anyone that I think is an obvious choice. I hope West doesn't get in. Other than longevity, what makes him deserving?
Agree! Joe West was awful.
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Old 10-19-2023, 11:32 AM
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Agree! Joe West was awful.
If he gets in let's also put in Angel Hernandez
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So hard to predict these things when we look at other marginal candidates that have gotten in. I wouldn't be surprised if none got in and wouldn't be surprised if a few do despite that they may not be deserving
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As someone who has spent many years snagging Jim Leyland 1986/87 slabs on the cheap, I'm hoping to cash in on the gamble much like 1960 Jim Kaat paid off. That said, I amassed 38 Kaat cards, but only 11 Leyland cards over the years...Leyland graded on the cheap was a bit harder to come by.

I don't have a lot of ballcard hustles, but "overlooked possible" HOF'rs has been a nice niche to turn smaller investments into payoffs that funds things I actually want.

I got a slew of Billy Wagner waiting around, too. Those have gone from "cheap" to being subject to other speculators the last 2-3 years, though.
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Joe West in the HOF would be a joke! One of the worst umpires in the history of the game and an all-around dbag.
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Joe West has never been a HOF caliber umpire, unless there is a "lets make it all about me" wing.
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Old 10-19-2023, 01:09 PM
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I think one of the hardest criteria to understand for the HOF is the manager. What makes someone a HOF manager? I'm pretty sure the magic number is winning three World Series. I don't think there's a single manager to win three other than Bochy (who isn't yet eligible) that isn't in the HOF.

But what else? I thought Cito Gaston sounded like a silly nomination but what really separates him from Tommy Lasorda? They both won two World Series titles and that's all there really is to say about either of them.

Then there's Whitey Herzog. Why is he in? He won a single World Series and what's really separating him and Jim Leyland?
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+1 on that, sir. That is what it has become, sure enough.
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I agree the nominees are marginal at best. But let's not forget that Cooperstown likes lots of new inductees for the tourism dollars it generates for the town and with that being said Piniella, Johnson and Leyland might generate some additional fans and dollars there for induction weekend. I'm not being political just practical but if the Hall goes with inclusion then White and Cito could get in ( granted they both had very good playing careers as well as post-playing baseball careers ...but HOF type careers I don't think so ).
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If I were an oddsmaker I think Piniella has the best shot for induction of the Managers just due to name recognition as a player and then Manager.

I just don’t see much here that really makes sense as HOF material. I am biased towards Piniella though as a Mariners fan.
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Yes, because that would mean he was out of umpiring for a few years
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